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Old 09-18-2006, 09:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Welcome, i am new here too, as for me all religion are good, it's people and society who interprets and makes it bad.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I find that many religious types are very immoral.
only the ones who dont truly believe. there are WAY to many imposters in the church these days...


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What do you mean by immorality? And if i am right the Ten Commandmnets is a bad thing? Because I Do not follow Chrstian Faith but I cannot say that not stealing or killing is a bad thing. Now the way the religion itself is practiced...that is different
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As arguably the oldest member of this forum, I have probably given this subject more years of thought, research and introspection than the average pedant. So, by way of introduction, herewith a partial exposition of what I understand to be the Truth. I say "partial" because I have published many thoughts on this subject in an ongoing effort to pass along 81 years of insight. The following is part of a chapter that describes my trip to Atheism.

That mindset [man invents god(s), not vice versa] never changed for me, through divorce, another marriage, another divorce, the death of my daughter, a life full of travel, adventure, people and a wide diversity of cultures all over the world. The more I learned about organized religion, the more I saw it as a horrifyingly negative force on humanity. I became a dilletante in the study of theology, dipping into everything from Hindu Animism to Transcendental Meditation to Buddhism to Catholicism and back to Judaism. I read the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Bhagavad Gita, parts of the Koran and some of the Upanishads, as well as the Torah and the Christian Bible. I talked with rabbis, priests, shamans and gurus. I even let a Jehovah's witness in one time (she left in tears). In short, because I believe in "don't knock it till you try it", I learned enough about the various religious concepts that mankind has imposed upon itself to understand how much I couldn't possibly swallow any of it.

I KNOW that the life force is a simple configuration of matter and energy, neither of which can be created or destroyed. I do NOT know the original source of this matter and energy, my definition of agnostic. I DO know that all deities, regardless of what they are called, are manmade myths, which knowledge apparently labels me an atheist.

I am far less immoral and untrustworthy than our born-again president. I am far more clear-headed and honest than the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells of the world. I do not condemn those who disagree with me nor am I afraid of the consequences of my non-belief in some imaginary afterlife. My prejudices are the result of rational thought, study, experience and introspection.

So I'm an atheist. So sue me.
I;ve got nothing worng but you kind of sound like an Atheist/Agnostic. Organized religion is just another attempt for humans to organize. I have nothing worng with any religion. It's the people I am concerned. They are using religion to back all of their actions up. That Aint right. If there is a GOD he would not want you to kill in his name.
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I am glad you have enjoyed 81 years but my Grandma was 93 when she passed away and her belief in God was as strong as ever.

By way of confession....I even sent a couple Jehovah witnesses on their way with uncharitable thoughts of me. My argument was that they were interupting my day of rest (Sunday). I told them they were as annoying as telemarketers.

Nice to meet you

Yes....I do believe in God....just not the people who go door to door trying to argue with you even after you let them know you are a believer.
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I’m really curious what you did to make a Jehovah's Witness cry.

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