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05-02-2008, 05:02 PM
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| Just another newbie Hi AF. I kinda suck at intro threads so if you want to know anything specific about me that I don't address in this post, feel free to ask.
My name is Dave and I'm 20. Pretty sure that I've gone through about every faith under the sun. I was raised in a Christian house, and while I don't have anything against anyone's beliefs, within the past few years I couldn't help but notice the hypocrisy of 2 of my family members. They both always use the infamous phrase, "well the Bible says it".
Yeah, well what about what the Torah says? Or what about the Koran? They both also tend to follow what's convenient for them rather than follow the Bible word for word which is what they tend to preach to me. I feel Jesus existed as a historical person, but I'm not sure about whether he was anything more than just a good man or not. Since deciding Christianity isn't exactly for me, I haven't made up my mind when it comes to what I'd like to follow from now on. I think I'll always believe in an afterlife and a higher power one way or the other, but for the time being, I can't say I have a "religion".
Glad to be here.
__________________ "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
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05-02-2008, 05:07 PM
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| welcome Dave .... sounds like you already have answers to many questions ... join in the threads and have fun ... see you around! Deb
__________________ "Ubi dubium ibi libertas."
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05-02-2008, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by debdodd welcome Dave .... sounds like you already have answers to many questions ... join in the threads and have fun ... see you around! Deb |
I'm with Deb.
Welcome aboard. I know its fun to feed the trolls a little, but be careful there and have some fun!!
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05-02-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Hi AF. I kinda suck at intro threads so if you want to know anything specific about me that I don't address in this post, feel free to ask. | Quote:
Originally Posted by duck I know its fun to feed the trolls a little, but be careful there and have some fun!! | I never said I have "questions", just if anybody here wanted to know something about MYSELF that I did not touch on you could ask me.
Are you suggesting I'm a troll?
__________________ "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
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05-02-2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Hi AF. I kinda suck at intro threads so if you want to know anything specific about me that I don't address in this post, feel free to ask. | Quote:
Originally Posted by duck I know its fun to feed the trolls a little, but be careful there and have some fun!! | I never said I have "questions", just if anybody here wanted to know something about MYSELF that I did not touch on you could ask me.
Are you suggesting I'm a troll? | Oh, no!!! Never! Sorry for the impression.
Just sayin' we get a few. 
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05-02-2008, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Hi AF. I kinda suck at intro threads so if you want to know anything specific about me that I don't address in this post, feel free to ask.
My name is Dave and I'm 20. Pretty sure that I've gone through about every faith under the sun. I was raised in a Christian house, and while I don't have anything against anyone's beliefs, within the past few years I couldn't help but notice the hypocrisy of 2 of my family members. They both always use the infamous phrase, "well the Bible says it".
Yeah, well what about what the Torah says? Or what about the Koran? They both also tend to follow what's convenient for them rather than follow the Bible word for word which is what they tend to preach to me. I feel Jesus existed as a historical person, but I'm not sure about whether he was anything more than just a good man or not. Since deciding Christianity isn't exactly for me, I haven't made up my mind when it comes to what I'd like to follow from now on. I think I'll always believe in an afterlife and a higher power one way or the other, but for the time being, I can't say I have a "religion".
Glad to be here. | Welcome Dave!
You made a wise choice. Im pretty much in the same boat you are as far as beliefs. There are many good books on non-religious spirituality out there. If your looking for suggestions, I highly recommend "conversations with god" by Neale Donald Walsch. Its a very easy fascinating read and is definitely not "religious". All the major bookstores carry it and it was on the NY times bestseller lists. You wont regret it. |
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05-03-2008, 07:43 AM
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| Dave 
duck wasn't talking about you at all .... our "trolls" that he refers to are the ones that are just here to argue and and aren't here to discuss, their minds are made up, they just want to change everyone else's mind! you'll see it said "don't feed the trolls" when one of oldies are arguing with a troll and one of our cyberbuddies will jump in are remind us not to feed the trolls ... Duck reminds me all the time 'cause I tend to argue with 'em, Romansh will remind me at time also ..... you'll see on some of the threads ...
nope, you haven't been given troll status ....... just yet (jk) 
__________________ "Ubi dubium ibi libertas."
"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....." |
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05-03-2008, 02:25 PM
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| Welcome Dave
hope you enjoy the forum
scary avatar .... all the best
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05-03-2008, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckInThe90s Hi AF. I kinda suck at intro threads so if you want to know anything specific about me that I don't address in this post, feel free to ask.
My name is Dave and I'm 20. Pretty sure that I've gone through about every faith under the sun. I was raised in a Christian house, and while I don't have anything against anyone's beliefs, within the past few years I couldn't help but notice the hypocrisy of 2 of my family members. They both always use the infamous phrase, "well the Bible says it".
Yeah, well what about what the Torah says? Or what about the Koran? They both also tend to follow what's convenient for them rather than follow the Bible word for word which is what they tend to preach to me. I feel Jesus existed as a historical person, but I'm not sure about whether he was anything more than just a good man or not. Since deciding Christianity isn't exactly for me, I haven't made up my mind when it comes to what I'd like to follow from now on. I think I'll always believe in an afterlife and a higher power one way or the other, but for the time being, I can't say I have a "religion".
Glad to be here. | I wish I had a nickel (no, make that a thousand dollars) for every introduction by someone who characterizes themselves as a former Christian. I realize the number of such individuals, at least within the confines of this forum, isn't statistically significant in the macro sense of things, but it sure feels significant.
I've followed a similar path from a fundamentalist Christian upbringing, through an awakening, and finally, to the existence I currently enjoy as an agnostic who demands a bit more than some feel-good premise for the basis of his operating beliefs.
If I could enumerate a dictum for approaching life and figuring out what to believe in, it would be something like, "If it doesn't make sense, don't spend any more time on it."
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05-03-2008, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Skepticologist I wish I had a nickel (no, make that a thousand dollars) for every introduction by someone who characterizes themselves as a former Christian. I realize the number of such individuals, at least within the confines of this forum, isn't statistically significant in the macro sense of things, but it sure feels significant.
I've followed a similar path from a fundamentalist Christian upbringing, through an awakening, and finally, to the existence I currently enjoy as an agnostic who demands a bit more than some feel-good premise for the basis of his operating beliefs.
If I could enumerate a dictum for approaching life and figuring out what to believe in, it would be something like, "If it doesn't make sense, don't spend any more time on it." | WOW, thank you for that heart-felt welcome!
You really give more of a vibe of atheist than agnostic.
__________________ "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
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