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shadowind · 04-29-2008, 02:08 PM

cool metaphor
with in the metaphor my own personal definition for god would probally be matter, atoms ext.
i've been to cannada and hawai, they both have the same air, it felt the same, it didn't seem really that different.

**debdodd** · 04-29-2008, 05:09 PM

dude, you need to use spell check more often LMAO

we can have Kay explain how to use it if need be (jk)

xxkayxx · 04-29-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by debdodd

dude, you need to use spell check more often LMAO

we can have Kay explain how to use it if need be (jk)

lol, why me? Is my spelling really that bad?

**debdodd** · 04-29-2008, 05:17 PM

not really, but he is closer to your age than mine so he might take it more kindly from a peer than someone old enough (barely

) to be his momma ....

xxkayxx · 04-29-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by debdodd

not really, but he is closer to your age than mine so he might take it more kindly from a peer than someone old enough (barely

) to be his momma ....

Hmm, i think I'd take it better from an adult that someone younger than me, but that's just me.
Besides, i don't use spellcheck. so yh, .

shadowind · 04-29-2008, 05:51 PM

ok, i'll be more carefull,

i don't care who i hear it from.

GX · 04-29-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xexon

Meditation occurs anytime you focus on something. It is perfected through practice. You must alway question the reason for meditation. What is it that you hope to gain? Worldy or spiritual motivation?
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I can see a point in time where I will use a meditation for creation of music. At this point I seek spiritual motivation but there is also one specific thing I wish to do with it and that is astral projection. Have you ever had any experience with astral projection? If so could you elaborate on your experience? Also do you have any advice to give on how to project? Specifically, I am at the point where I am able to quiet my mind and my body feels numb and I felt vibrations a few times but have never been able to "get over the hump". Any advice would be appreciated.

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It will wander because it's looking for stimulation. Now, here comes the pacifier. You give the mind something to sit down and suck on while to you access the higher frequencies of the personal "I".

This pacifier can be a mantra, prayer beads, etc. It is repetition with a purpose. To hardwire new pathways in your brain according to a wider perception than you once had.

Could you give some specific examples of mantras? Also how do prayer beads etc. work? Could you extrapolate on that?

Thanks!
GX

xexon · 04-29-2008, 10:06 PM

There is a policy of not sharing certain inner experiences with others. Not because I don't want to, but there is no way for words to describe it with any accuracy, and this leads to misunderstanding.

If you have desires, you will find that they will run from you as fast as you chase after them. If you pay them no mind, they will come chasing after you. Don't desire things like powers or siddhas. They will only lead to diversion from your true path. If they manifest during your quest, you'll be developed enough by that time to pay them little attention. If you want to experience astral travel, just dream. The outer city limits of the astral realm is where dreams occur. It is beyond the reaches of physical law, so time distortion is common when returning from there. Ever fall asleep for 5 minutes and find out an hour has passed?

Mantras and such only work for certain people. They never did squat for me. I've always been pretty aware of my true nature, so I was hardwired from a young age. I never had the attraction to rituals for hardwiring the brain.

People have many options for approaching their own divinity. You must feel your way along until something feels right. It will be individual to you and you alone. So sharing of experiences does little good other than fuel the imagination of others.

My meditation is waking meditation. Eyes open. I am centered on waking life of those around me, as well as my own involvement in it.

One part of me is the actor on stage. Another part of me is in the audience watching.

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AB517 · Yesterday, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xexon

Hello William,

I can't remember the last book I read.

The path of Sant Mat will be strange for most. I can only say to judge it by what is written rather than what is practiced. Like most religions or belief systems, there is human weakness within the body of it.

I've never had any contact with it other than with the master Charan Singh. He sent me a very kind letter in response to some questions I had. He passed on a short time later.

I've never taken initiation or even had contact with the modern community. I just placed the idea of what needed to be done in my minds eye and lived my life according to what I could FEEL.

Any idiot can think.

The road to realization is paved with the ability to feel.

But first, you must convince the mind that it is a servant rather than a master.

Its not just going to lay down and say "do me". But once you can present enough evidence and argument to back it up, you can convince this 800lb gorilla to stand aside and sit in the co-pilot's seat.

It will listen to reason when describing higher realms, but it will always be in pain in knowing it can never experience it, itself.

Hell, you see, is anything the mind can't figure out.

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I just saw this today Zee. I am sorry.

I agree a lot with what you say. I have also stopped reading these types of books. The ones that haven’t "felt this thing" just talk a list of facts. Ones that have felt it say the same thing you have experienced, you almost know what they are going to say before they say it.

For example CB Lewis and that Joe Camble guy. Nice fellows describing something I believe they never saw. Opinionated and polite for sure but have not seen this “color” that most of us are blind too and can not be thought. A true guider can point the way if you have the key of willingness to drop what you think you know, what ever that is.
They are scholars not profits. "Profit" here not meaning seeing into the future but rather seeing the now. For example, Elkhart Tolle’s book, he has seen it. "Conversations with God" is scholarly, but he has good advice. His conversations were with himself, in my humble opinion.

I mite start reading again just to help me with wording. Also it is arrogant for me to assume authority, witch I have yet seen anybody with, especially here, especially me.

xexon · Yesterday, 05:34 PM

Reading is okay, but the reason I stopped was I had found what I was looking for.

I still read some things, but not for spiritual reasons. Purely intellectual pursuits like my love of physics still sucks me in to a good article now and again.

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