buzz2

I found this site purely by mistake but, ironicly I was having this discussion with my 15 year old son the other evening. Let's get one thing clear first right off the bat. I am NOT either an agnostic nor atheist. I am a CHRISTIAN. But my son I believe, is. Judging by his statements to me. I am just trying to gain some insight into his thought process and how he's come to BELIEVE the way he does... or doesn't. I'm not here to judge anyone. I leave that up to GOD when the time comes. And it will. Thank you for your patience and tolerance... hopefully.

debdodd

Welcome Buzz .... Thank you for coming forward and looking into where your son is coming from. I think you will find a diversity of age and beliefs on this forum. There are many of us who are parents and have experienced similar things with our children ... at our house .... my husband believes marginally, I don't believe, my 17 year old believes in God but not organized religion, my 26 and 29 year old step-daughters are very much Christian believers .... it all works out at our house ... at least when it comes in to personal spiritual belief ...

I only have one question for you .... just out of curiosity .... which would you rather your son come out and say .... I don't believe in God or I'm gay .... probably neither but I hope you see my point .... your son is at an age where he is seeking answers ... he sees all the crazy stuff going on in the world and wonders ... where is God in such in such a situation or whatever ... kids his age are trying to grow up and make sense of this world .... they question their parents and ultimately everything else ... if you have given him a good solid base .... he will come out fine .....

Once again Welcome and I hope you find we aren't baby eating monsters Deb

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"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

buzz2

Thanks for your responce. No, I didn't think yall were monsters. I used to think like you all did. Until I experienced a "life changing" event. I get down on my knees and thank GOD every night for it. The way I see it, the boy will come around eventually. All in GOD'S time... not mine. And I pray that the rest of you all will be saved as well. Again, thanks and God Bless You & Yours.

Abel

Hello Buzz... I am a Christian that is simply in Love with Jesus. I try to bring balance to some discussions from a Christian view point. Welcome abord. Let me know if I can help in any way.

buzz2

Hey Abel,
Thanks. I just might take you up on that some time real soon. Appreciated.

shadowind

atheist or agnostic thinking? also im curious on what event might have such an effect. thanks and welcome.

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buzz2

OK. Unfortunately, I'm not such a great & fast typist. It'd take too long to type out the whole explanation. Short version... I felt the hand of GOD touch me on the shoulder and speak to me, not once but, twice. In doing so, saved my life and the lives of a young woman and her two young children in the car with her. I used to be a long haul trucker. In a very heavy rain storm, GOD helped me to avoid hitting that woman's small car when it spun out, byt telling me to switch lanes. After tapping me on the shoulder and telling me to move left. When I did, the car lost control and skidded to the right shoulder of the road and stopped. Had I not listened, I would have surely hit that car. By the way, I wasn't sleepy and there was only me in the cab of that truck. I truly believe it was GOD that day that saved me and that family. You can choose to believe it or not. I KNOW what I KNOW. Before that "event", I considered myself an agnostic. Probably closer to an atheist.

shadowind

ok, so your sure it was god.
are you sure it was the christan god?
intresting thing, surely you've been through the other possibilitys. i probally would of attribuited it to intuition.

cool, my brother is a trucker as well, hes working for a new company, can't remember which one at the moment. he used to work for warner, a perdo(my spelling sucks) chicken account. the chicken plant smells terrible.

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remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll

romansh

Welcome Buzz

hope you get the insight that you are looking for.
hope you take an active part in the discussions.

test and be tested ... so to speak

all the best

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buzz2

Answer to your question... I am positive. There is NO OTHER GOD. PERIOD. How could you atribute it to intuition? Are you a fortune teller? Can you see into the future? I certainly can't.
As for your bro. Ya gotta admire him. Believe it or not, trucking is a hard job. It's not just sitting behind the wheel & driving. It can be very stressful and taxing on your back. Kudos to him. You should be proud of him. GOD Bless You & Yours.