romansh

Buzz

You did not answer the intent of Shadow's question.
How did you know it was a Christian god that helped you?

all the best

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buzz2

HMMM. Well, I'm not as well versed in the Bible as I'd like to be. I only know what I know. The truth is that there is only one GOD. There is no other. HE is the GOD of ALL. I'm sorry I can't give you a more consise answer. It's a matter of faith. I believe it with all my heart and soul. I am at peace with that. I don't question it. No need to. I know Jesus is my Lord and Savior. He died on the cross for ALL of us. Even you. I watched this dvd last nite... "Answers to Skeptics' Top Five Questions", by Charlie H. Campbell. Maybe this dvd can help you to understand how folks like me believe in OUR FATHER who art in Heaven... Hallowed be THY name.
Sorry I couldn't do better for you.

GX

Welcome Buzz,
How do you know your son is questioning God? He may just be questioning religion which is what a lot of people are doing nowadays. There is a big difference between religion and God. There are alot of things in fundamental christian interpretation that dont make sense, let me give you some examples:
1) Why would God send a buddhist woman with a heart of gold to hell just because she happens to not have christian beliefs?
2) Why are you condemned to hell if you have sex outside of marriage or if you are gay or if you drink more than 2 glasses of wine?
3) Why is God a vengeful, wrathful being?
4) Why would God create a being he cannot control? (the devil)

These are but one of many fundamental christian religious "rules" that dont make sense and your son is quite healthy to question them. He is not the first or the last. I used to be a christian in the traditional (not fundamental) sense but questioned a lot of stuff that didnt make sense that led me to my current beliefs. I do believe in God and an afterlife but not in the devil or hell or original sin. I also believe that Christ existed and he had some lessons for mankind but not necessarily the ones that christian religions propagate. I believe I was led to my current beliefs by God. My current beliefs I just stated are based on reputable near death experience research. These are people who died, went to heaven and were later resusitated and came back to earth to tell similar tales. I later read the "conversation's with god" series of books which augmented and cemented my new beliefs. I do believe your story of God intervening in preventing you from crashing your vehicle. I disagree with your biblically based religious beliefs about the nature of God and the world and Im sure your son does as well.

Ive got some news for you. No one religion "owns" God, not even fundamental christianity. God is love and love is not bound by anyone earthly religion or any set of rules. I do not wish to knock fundamental christianity and I am sure it works for some people which is good but it wont work for everyone. Your best bet with your son is to downplay the religious beliefs I mentioned above and focus on "God is love" and the spiritual aspects and to have him seek out his own answers. I also recommend the book I mentioned above as well. I hope this helps...

buzz2

Read my last post. This will dispell any questions you may have about my beliefs. I do agree, GOD is love. But, the ONLY way to GOD is through JESUS CHRIST. Not by your "good deeds". If you don't acknowledge JESUS as your savior, you cannot get to Heaven. It is written.
Also, read the 10 Commandments. Adultry is a sin. Gay sex is a sin. Man should not lie down with man. If a person thinks they're gay, they must resist those urges and ask GOD to help take them away.
You can't "water down your faith" and choose which commandments to follow and which ones not to, simply because you don't like them. I choose not to "water down my faith" in GOD. Like I said,.. I believe with all my heart and soul.
As for my son, he stated with his own mouth, that he questions the existence of GOD. It is upsetting to me but, I will try to show him the way to the LORD. I won't scold or punish him. That's not my job as a parent. All I can do is to try to teach him to the best of my ability. The rest is in GOD'S hands.

romansh

Thanks for your reply.
So you were an agnostic trucker, you feel the proverbial hand of god on your shoulder telling you to change lanes, and you immediately converted to Christianity? ... Why not Islam or some deistic god?

I'm asking for your answer not some answer in the Bible.
Thanks

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buzz2

Again, I'm sorry I've not answered to your satisfaction. Truth be told, Maybe I just don't know how to expand on it further. As I stated before, I'm not as well versed in the bible as I'd like or need to be. I'm still learning. I only know what's in my heart and what I've learned since the "experience".
A little history; I was brought up in the Catholic church. I grew to disagree with the Catholics as I got older. Still do. I don't know when exactly I became disgruntled with "religion" all together. Certain life experiences I suppose. Probably like alot of yall. I had ALOT of unresolved questions about why this & that GOD? I asked preachers, priests, rabbis,..anyone I could. I was VERY skeptical.
Then the experience happened. I just sat and cried for quite awhile right after on the shoulder of the road. For some reason, I started to go back to church. A "non denominational" church. It was like GOD opened my mind and my heart to what I was seeking. HE filled that void in my heart. I don't ask why anymore, because I know HE has a purpose for EVERYTHING. It's not for me to question. HE reveals those things in HIS own time, when HE thinks we're ready. We here on earth can't comprehend HIS wisdom and purpose.
I only ask HIM for HIS guidance and wisdom to help me through each day. All we have to do is ask HIM and BELIEVE. HE listens and provides what we need.
This is the only way I know how to answer all yall's questions. I just have FAITH in HIM.

duck

Welcome to our little Agnostic home on the interwebs.

It would seem to me, from what you have stated about the relationship with your son, that you have somewhat forced you beliefs in your family.

You have a choice that is going to be hard for you: Accept him or lose him.

Not easy choices for one that believes as deeply as you, and not an easy thing to accept that a child rejects what the family has chosen.

Good luck to you and your son. I hope your faith doesn't take too strong a beating in here.

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buzz2

It is my resposiblity as a father and a Christian to teach my boys the right way. After that, it's on them. GOD gives us free will. If you choose to stray from the LORD, then it is HE who will judge. NOT ME. My boys & I don't argue or fight about it. If I fight them, then surely they will pull away. I only try to give them the tools to learn. It's all I have. I will still love them no matter what.

xxkayxx

You should read the thread on "free will". It's interesting.

Welcome to the forums. =)

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greywolf90

welcome buzz2, i don't think he was refering to adultery, but having monogomous sex without a marriage ceremony, or having sex with a woman before you marry her (and if he was refering to adultery, my bad). considering the divorce rates these days, how is having sex with a woman before marriage any different from having sex after marriage? as for gay sex, what about gay celibacy? or have you considered that being gay or bi is not a choice, but just the way they are born? i.e. whatever hormones in our body that attract us to the oppisite gender, theirs' works in reverse. so why should they be held accountable for the way god made them? i looked at your website, and the homosexuality section evan said that a christian homosexual will rarely ever be able to become a heterosexual. why is that? could it be because they are physically unable to do so? anyways, good luck with your son, and if he doesn't come around to your side, try not to let it come between your relationship.

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