jebote

Hi to everybody...........
Just a short note to let you all know that (as of today) I have become a new member of this (for me) fantastic forum and I hope that I will learn a lot from many of you "old hands"- so to speak. My beliefs/disbeliefs are very much in line of this forum so I am sure that I will benefit heaps in reassuring my self that I'm on the right track and that I'm not alone in those taught's. One little drawback is that, my Ethnic background will limit my input to such a wonderful forum but I promise that I will tray and do my best to be active as much as my limitation will allow me to participate in constructive dialog. Also my educational level is not to the level of some in this forum, so my knowledge and vocabulary capacity is far behind in comparison to some of you out there. Never the less ideas and reasonings are of the same direction. For some unknown reason I never could of believe the story of our beginning ??? the way I have being told. No fancy reading and study was ever conducted on my behalf as life has grabbed me in it's claws early in my years so the struggle to survive began long ago. Not complaining about anything at all but religious part never struck me as positive and encouraging explanation for all the suffering, disease, hangar,etc,etc. Unjust behaver of usually prominent people and religious organization of many but most of all Catholic Christian Church during the Inquisition period. Real barbaric behaver. But live goes on. So that is my brief introduction to your forum and I hope that all of yours out there will be tolerant of my way of expressing my self. Thanks for your patience...........

Cheers to all and Kind Regards
dedabato

It's nice to be"Important" but it's more Important to be "Nice"

romansh

welcome jebote

I would not let your ethnicity stop you from participating.
have fun an ask lot's of questions

that' my advice

all the best

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debdodd

welcome .... don't allow your perceived limitations prohibit you from participating on this forum .....

out side of the forum I've met some really educated idiots so education doesn't indicate how smart you can be. There are many on here that are still in high school, college ... even a few that are teaching in high school and college ...


just have fun, be yourself and enjoy your time here!

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jebote

Thanks "romansh" and "debdodd" for your words of encouragement and I know that I'll have fantastic time on this forum. My education or better still - luck of it - is not an issue here, it's the English gramer that worries me as English is not my native mothers tang ( born and educated in former Yugoslavia but now residing in Australia ) so problem is my confidence in ability to express my opinions as well as most of you ( judging by the way majority of you quote famous and well known scholars and philosophers of our time )
Now with that out of the way, I can proceed with few opinions that I regard as crucial ( to me ) in rebelling the notion of our beginning after the "big-bang" I can not for the life of me agree with the legendary story that circle around for so long about our begining...
No:1- Why would God? create us with such imperfections "to be envious of others, to be so cruel to one another, to kill and torture one another,to posses greed,and so on and on" when He is so perfect and more than capable of correcting His mistakes really easy????
No:2-Looking at the various and numerous religions - how can anybody in they right mind argue in favor of the one imposed on them with out any substantial evidence to support the theory of our beginning?
No:3-My view on the subject of " Theism vs Atheism " I know that this particular subject has been discussed many, many times before, but I feel that I have to voice my opinion and to see if other members of this forum would contribute to it. -- I think ( I know ) that both sides are of the same origin and both are identical in the views they represent ( believes and disbelieves ) but none has any solid evidence to fully and with out any doubt support their claims...
So this is where I will bid you all a very good night ( in Australia is now 12.20 pm. ) Looking foreword to your replays
Kind Regards to all
dedabato

It's nice to be"Important" but it's more Important to be "Nice"

debdodd

you seem to be doing just fine putting forth your thoughts even with any language difficulties. There are several people on forum that have language as an obstacle but that hasn't stopped them from having strong opinions or stating them either.

From what I understand if the translation portion is the biggest obstacle you have .... you might want to check with Bjarki he lives in the frozen tundra of Northern Europe .... he must have some suggestions for you regarding the translation issue .... I think his native language is Danish or something like that (sorry Bjarki, couldn't remember exactly what/where).

We are all fairly forgiving in that department ... thank you Microsoft for spell check or I'd look like a complete idiot most of the time

You'll get the hang of it in no time and then we'll have trouble keeping up with you!

Deb

Good Night and Sweet Dreams!

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

jebote

You are a Goddess
Like wise and thanks again
dedabato
It's nice to be"Important" but it's more Important to be "Nice"

debdodd

I am a Goddess with a congregation of one!

go to bed sleepyhead!

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

romansh

I think that is Bjarki's second language

Don't worry jebote .. you will do fine.

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Wulfric

Faroese is his first, Danish second, then English after there somewhere I believe

But he speaks (or at least types) english better than some native-english speaking friends

Welcome to the forum, jebote!