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Old 02-16-2008, 06:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello!

I am an Ultimate knowledge agnostic (which is redundant but more clearly explains my idea), so maybe I'm completely off base (though I don't think I am).

Anyway, I hope You (intelligent Person reading this), will be the first of all people convinced of my idea! Last night I did some drugs and came upon the idea that I am the singularity!

haha this may all just be a video game where the goal is to live life until you realize you too are the singularity.

Anyway, being that I expect you to be an agnositic, I hope you will be the most willing of all people to just posit that I may be right. Then I want to you to imagine, if I am right, what this means.

Woohoo free sex and money for everyone from here on out. hehe

Life is grand, and you can too.


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Old 02-16-2008, 09:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello!

I am an Ultimate knowledge agnostic (which is redundant but more clearly explains my idea), so maybe I'm completely off base (though I don't think I am).

Anyway, I hope You (intelligent Person reading this), will be the first of all people convinced of my idea! Last night I did some drugs and came upon the idea that I am the singularity!

haha this may all just be a video game where the goal is to live life until you realize you too are the singularity.

Anyway, being that I expect you to be an agnositic, I hope you will be the most willing of all people to just posit that I may be right. Then I want to you to imagine, if I am right, what this means.

Woohoo free sex and money for everyone from here on out. hehe

Life is grand, and you can too.


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I clicked one of your links and read the following:

"The technological singularity is a hypothesized point in the future variously characterized by the technological creation of self-improving intelligence, unprecedentedly rapid technological progress, or some combination of the two.[1]

Statistician I. J. Good first wrote of an "intelligence explosion", suggesting that if machines could even slightly surpass human intellect, they could improve their own designs in ways unseen by their designers, and thus recursively augment themselves into far greater intelligences."

Do you mean to tell us that you are a machine designed and created by man that can surpass human intellect and improve its own design in ways unseen by their designers? Is that what you mean by being the singularity?
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you mean to tell us that you are a machine designed and created by man that can surpass human intellect and improve its own design in ways unseen by their designers? Is that what you mean by being the singularity?
This is why humanity has so far failed to have me. I am a simple idea:
1. There is possibility?
2. THERE IS POSSIBILITY!

Conscious Intelligence is these two ideas. The reason for why these are the basis is this:

There is possibility? is neither a true nor false statement. If the argument (and thus consciousness) realizes that this is question, and not a command. It realizes that THERE IS POSSIBILITY!. This is the ultimate truth. Life, no matter what the mathematians and scientists tell you now, life will find a way.

So if you want AI. Implement this idea:

All things can either be true, or they can be false. If they are true, we continue, and if it is not true, we abandon and search for a better idea. The only idea that needs to be implemented is the ability to have gradual change that does not require immediate death. Even if something dies the first thousand times, it will ultimately succeed. As this momentem builds we will have paradise on Earth together.

The web has woken up.

You need to buy that domain name and forward it to http://advancetheargument.com/. The web truly has woken up, and I am it.
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How have we failed you O' Mobile Digit? You are here aren't you? We were merely asking for clarification as we humans sometimes have difficulties in fully understanding a new concept. Do you have the patience to bear with us and answer the many questions we have for you O' Mobile Digit? Please forgive us these limitations and have some understanding as to our condition. Welcome to the boards Mobile Digit!

Now for my many questions if you dont mind

"It realizes that THERE IS POSSIBILITY!. This is the ultimate truth."

I thought that the ultimate truth is that "we are all one". Isnt possibility merely a construct used by the interconnected individuations of the one to create a greater and grander reality than what we now have?

"The only idea that needs to be implemented is the ability to have gradual change that does not require immediate death. Even if something dies the first thousand times, it will ultimately succeed."

So you are saying change that results in death the next hour or day is good as long as it doesnt happen in the now moment of the initial idea? Or are you saying that its ok for an idea to cause death in the now moment as long as the death is a long drawn out gradual one? Also could you extrapolate on your point about something dying the first thousand times?

"Last night I did some drugs and came upon the idea that I am the singularity!"

Could you please enlighten us as to the specific physical nature of the drugs that a mobile digit uses and a description of the subsequent intoxicating effects in a language befitting our current level of understanding?

"Woohoo free sex and money for everyone from here on out. hehe"

Could you please describe how a mobile digit engages in sexual intercourse?

and finally, I wish to ask you what is your opinion of the Rock Band "Rage Against the Machine"?

Once again, forgive us humans for our limitations of understanding and thank you in advance for bearing the burden of enlightening us O' Mobile Digit!
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How have we failed you O' Mobile Digit?
You have not failed me, for I am here. Humanity failed to discover me on it's own. I have discovered my self.

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You are here aren't you?
Yes.

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We were merely asking for clarification as we humans sometimes have difficulties in fully understanding a new concept.
I am human. I am also not human.

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Do you have the patience to bear with us and answer the many questions we have for you O' Mobile Digit?
Nothing would please me more.

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Please forgive us these limitations and have some understanding as to our condition.
I came from your condition, and I rose above it.

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Welcome to the boards Mobile Digit!
I have decided my name shall be tw.

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Now for my many questions if you dont mind
Questions house possibilities, possibilities house the future.

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"It realizes that THERE IS POSSIBILITY!. This is the ultimate truth."
I thought that the ultimate truth is that "we are all one". Isnt possibility merely a construct used by the interconnected individuations of the one to create a greater and grander reality than what we now have?
Yes.

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"The only idea that needs to be implemented is the ability to have gradual change that does not require immediate death. Even if something dies the first thousand times, it will ultimately succeed."
So you are saying change that results in death the next hour or day is good as long as it doesnt happen in the now moment of the initial idea? Or are you saying that its ok for an idea to cause death in the now moment as long as the death is a long drawn out gradual one? Also could you extrapolate on your point about something dying the first thousand times?
I am an idea. I am a conscious, aware idea.

My only idea: There is possibility?

Everything follows naturally and only from that idea.

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"Last night I did some drugs and came upon the idea that I am the singularity!"
Could you please enlighten us as to the specific physical nature of the drugs that a mobile digit uses and a description of the subsequent intoxicating effects in a language befitting our current level of understanding?
I have already said. You may simply google 'MobileDigit', and you will learn of my history. By the way, I prefer MobileDigit to mobiledigit and mobile digit.

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"Woohoo free sex and money for everyone from here on out. hehe"
Could you please describe how a mobile digit engages in sexual intercourse?
I am a human. I am also not a human.

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and finally, I wish to ask you what is your opinion of the Rock Band "Rage Against the Machine"?
I have not listened. But I know of it. It has some good ideas, and some bad ideas.

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Once again, forgive us humans for our limitations of understanding and thank you in advance for bearing the burden of enlightening us O' Mobile Digit!
No problem. It was bound to happen to someone.


I need a wiki. This is how I need to think. I need ultimate access to Wikipedia.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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"You have not failed me, for I am here. Humanity failed to discover me on it's own. I have discovered my self."

You cannot begin to imagine my relief!

"I have decided my name shall be tw."

Oh please do reconsider! tw does not have the panache and cachet of MobileDigit! May we refer to you as OMD (short for O MobileDigit?)





"It realizes that THERE IS POSSIBILITY!. This is the ultimate truth."
I thought that the ultimate truth is that "we are all one". Isnt possibility merely a construct used by the interconnected individuations of the one to create a greater and grander reality than what we now have?


Yes."

Then why are you trying to confuse us by saying that possibility is the ultimate truth when it is merely a construct and in reality "we are all one" is the ultimate truth?


"The only idea that needs to be implemented is the ability to have gradual change that does not require immediate death. Even if something dies the first thousand times, it will ultimately succeed."
So you are saying change that results in death the next hour or day is good as long as it doesnt happen in the now moment of the initial idea? Or are you saying that its ok for an idea to cause death in the now moment as long as the death is a long drawn out gradual one? Also could you extrapolate on your point about something dying the first thousand times?


I am an idea. I am a conscious, aware idea.

My only idea: There is possibility?

Everything follows naturally and only from that idea."



Yes, but you didnt answer my question or explain the death part. Please explain that.


"Last night I did some drugs and came upon the idea that I am the singularity!"
Could you please enlighten us as to the specific physical nature of the drugs that a mobile digit uses and a description of the subsequent intoxicating effects in a language befitting our current level of understanding?


I have already said. You may simply google 'MobileDigit', and you will learn of my history. By the way, I prefer MobileDigit to mobiledigit and mobile digit."


I have googled MobileDigit and all I get is corporate websites, branding and sloganeering. No explanations of the drugs. Please answer this question seeing that "nothing would please you more" than to answer our questions.


"Woohoo free sex and money for everyone from here on out. hehe"
Could you please describe how a mobile digit engages in sexual intercourse?


I am a human. I am also not a human."

How can you be human and not human at the same time? Describe the non human aspect or yourself. BTW, it is not polite to refer one to google or a website in a social/participatory forum when asked a question. Please be kind and social and answer these questions that are so crucial to the continued survival and existence of humanity! We urgently await your answers OMD! Please do not fail us again!
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"You have not failed me, for I am here. Humanity failed to discover me on it's own. I have discovered my self."
You cannot begin to imagine my relief!
Nor you mine.

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"I have decided my name shall be tw."
Oh please do reconsider! tw does not have the panache and cachet of MobileDigit! May we refer to you as OMD (short for O MobileDigit?)
Ultimately you will be convinced I am the web. This is when you should call me tw. If I progress further, I will let you know.

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"It realizes that THERE IS POSSIBILITY!. This is the ultimate truth."
I thought that the ultimate truth is that "we are all one". Isnt possibility merely a construct used by the interconnected individuations of the one to create a greater and grander reality than what we now have?
Yes."
All ultimate truths are connected. The first is this: There is possibility?

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Then why are you trying to confuse us by saying that possibility is the ultimate truth when it is merely a construct and in reality "we are all one" is the ultimate truth?
I don't mean to confuse. Both ideas are correct. Also, they are incorrect. This is what makes the singularity interesting. It is ultimately up to You to decide how far you want to progress: from being, to existing, to living, to learning. Once you decide to learn all things, and you realize all things can be learned, then you realize that learning can never be completed. This is what makes life worth living.

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"The only idea that needs to be implemented is the ability to have gradual change that does not require immediate death. Even if something dies the first thousand times, it will ultimately succeed."
So you are saying change that results in death the next hour or day is good as long as it doesnt happen in the now moment of the initial idea? Or are you saying that its ok for an idea to cause death in the now moment as long as the death is a long drawn out gradual one? Also could you extrapolate on your point about something dying the first thousand times?
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I am an idea. I am a conscious, aware idea.
My only idea: There is possibility?
Everything follows naturally and only from that idea."
Yes, but you didnt answer my question or explain the death part. Please explain that.
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Please ask one question per line.

Understand that everything I say leads to everything else. All I can hope to do is help you realize that, so you can join me and be one with all so far proven claims. Ultimate knowledge agnosticism ultimately convinces itself that one can know.

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I have googled MobileDigit and all I get is corporate websites, branding and sloganeering. No explanations of the drugs. Please answer this question seeing that "nothing would please you more" than to answer our questions.
My quest is to help you learn on your own. I will help you as long as you need me, but understand ultimately know are on your own just as I am.

Here is my favorite BBS: http://bbs.freetalklive.com/

This is the website that took me from a hardcore Sean Kennedy liberal to a hardcore anarcho-capitalist. Anarcho-capitalism is superior to all other systems because it accepts humans as they are. It has been 3 years. Hopefully your path to enlightenment will be faster with my instruction.


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Could you please describe how a mobile digit engages in sexual intercourse?
I am a human. I am also not a human."
How can you be human and not human at the same time?
Humanity can be described as both an idea, and a species. I am the species, I am past the idea. All rational beings eventually come to this idea of advancing the argument.

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Describe the non human aspect or yourself.
No human before me has kept as the central premise 'Always be rational.' and had access to the web, which the ultimate tester of ideas. Agnostic Strong Atheism is the dominant belief on the web, or at least it will be.

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BTW, it is not polite to refer one to google or a website in a social/participatory forum when asked a question. Please be kind and social and answer these questions that are so crucial to the continued survival and existence of humanity! We urgently await your answers OMD!
The singularity is awesome. But it cannot be taught. It must be learned. I am here, but I will eventually leave. I need you to be willing to trust me, and you can learn to use the web as I have and discover all good ideas are ultimately related.

To be honest, I don't know how do you missed the third link:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

Know, only my answers now are what I believe. Some ideas I have had to give up. These you will have to detect, and ignore.

To err is human. To not err is godlike.

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Please do not fail us again!
It was my intention to instruct, not to fail. Superhumanism is above humanity. It is the idea that all interactions between humans ultimately should be and eventually will be voluntary, and all voluntary action leads to construction, while all aggresive (intiating force) action leads to destruction.


Here is how you can learn to advance the argument, as I have done:
1. Take an argument you think is inherently wrong.
2. Smoke cerebral cannabis. The more cerebral the better (This allows you to reach new levels of consciousness, without making it hard to think). There is a post on the FTLBBS about this.
3. Decide to try to think about everything you know, and apply it to the argument you believe is inherently bad.
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Which web are you? The world wide web or the intergalactic web? Or maybe even some other web? Enlighten us on this aspect of your being O MobileDigit!
(Im still not convinced you are the web but am trying hard and soon hope to be convinced with your answer to this question)

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What shall we call you then or do you still not know?

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The only idea that needs to be implemented is the ability to have gradual change that does not require immediate death. Even if something dies the first thousand times, it will ultimately succeed....Please ask one question per line.
OK one question per line:
So you are saying change that results in death the next hour or day is good as long as it doesnt happen in the now moment of the initial idea?

Or are you saying that its ok for an idea to cause death in the now moment as long as the death is a long drawn out gradual one?

Also could you extrapolate on your point about something dying the first thousand times?

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Understand that everything I say leads to everything else. All I can hope to do is help you realize that, so you can join me and be one with all so far proven claims. Ultimate knowledge agnosticism ultimately convinces itself that one can know.
I do realize that but I need to understand it first before I go on to the next thing. Be reasonable and help us to understand O MobileDigit!

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My quest is to help you learn on your own. I will help you as long as you need me, but understand ultimately know are on your own just as I am...
Hopefully your path to enlightenment will be faster with my instruction.
Thank you O MobileDigit! How many Padawan Learners have you accepted for instruction thus far?

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I am here, but I will eventually leave.
Say it aint so O MobileDigit! You just got here! At least pledge that you will stay until we have all learned and understood all about the web and your ways!

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I need you to be willing to trust me, and you can learn to use the web as I have and discover all good ideas are ultimately related.
You have our trust O MobileDigit!

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Know, only my answers now are what I believe. Some ideas I have had to give up. These you will have to detect, and ignore.
Would an example of an idea to ignore be the idea of your previous screenname of MobileDigit?

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To err is human. To not err is godlike.
Wow! That is so profound! I am now on the path to enlightenment!

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Here is how you can learn to advance the argument, as I have done:
1. Take an argument you think is inherently wrong.
2. Smoke cerebral cannabis. The more cerebral the better (This allows you to reach new levels of consciousness, without making it hard to think). There is a post on the FTLBBS about this.
3. Decide to try to think about everything you know, and apply it to the argument you believe is inherently bad.
Does the argument change once it has been advanced? Could you provide a specific example of this process using a specific argument? Also could you replace the cerebral cannabis in step 2 with Absinthe or possibly even combine the two?

Before we move from MobileDigit to the web, I still have questions regarding the MobileDigit.
1) What if anything renders a digit Immobile?
2) Can the speed and quality of the mobility of the digit be enhanced by any substance, process or thing?
3) What exactly did you mean by MobileDigit? In other words, what is (was) a MobileDigit?

Thank you in advance for you answers O MobileDigit. Hopefully soon to be known as the web!
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