Telimaktar

DigitalMobile needs some DMT. Check out alexgrey.com and see what DMT did to open in his art. Still haven't tried any myself but heard that it is very amazing. You feel connected to everything. I believe that there are two kinds of DMT and their trips are different.
Plus I have heard that it is legal although still hard to find. The chemicals are created naturally in the brain but in much smaller amounts than what is absorbed when smoked.

Buddha

O.K. I'm really confused and the whole thread is hard to follow.

Two things,

I saw rage against the machine in there somewhere, there should be a class on ratm in schools.

I also saw DMT. I want DMT.

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Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are american dreams

noeticcenter

[MobileDigit;24764]Hello!

I am an Ultimate knowledge agnostic (which is redundant but more clearly explains my idea), so maybe I'm completely off base (though I don't think I am).

Anyway, I hope You (intelligent Person reading this), will be the first of all people convinced of my idea! Last night I did some drugs and came upon the idea that I am the singularity!

haha this may all just be a video game where the goal is to live life until you realize you too are the singularity.

Anyway, being that I expect you to be an agnositic, I hope you will be the most willing of all people to just posit that I may be right. Then I want to you to imagine, if I am right, what this means.

Woohoo free sex and money for everyone from here on out. hehe

Life is grand, and you can too. MobileDigit IAmTheSingularity.com
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MobileDigit Agmostic
There is possibility
Hopefully we will eventually agree about everything, because everything is truth.
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Noetic Reply

This is a basic tenet of post-modernism. This falsification of the Law of non-contradiction is claimed to be derived from Quantum Mechanics and Relativity Theory. Actually, Quantum Theory itself has nothing much to do with this notion, only an INTERPRETATION of QM. According to one interpretation of QM matter below certain threshold of its dimension is Both particle And wave at the same time, hence the Both/And proposition. Now a wave cannot have any mass, but all matter particles have mass. So in fact matter behaves Either as particle Or as wave, depending on the measurement process and hence Either/Or. The both/and may apply to light since photon rest mass is zero.

Now, how is this connected to Truth? That is via ‘consciousness’ which in the Western ethos is the antonym of unconsciousness. Not so, when certain Eastern Vedic/Vedantic /Buddhist words- atma/prana/pichas/mana/chitta/brahman/ are translated into the rubric of ‘Consciousness’. In measurement or observation of phenomena, this ‘Consciousness’ of the observer is claimed to be the actual ‘subject’. So the flimsy hypothesis goes further to settle that “consciousness determines the outcome of observation” by collapsing a mathematical term- Wave Function- of the wave equation. This is only one of many of the Interpretations of QM, not the theory itself. There is no term or factor for ‘consciousnesses’ in the wave equation itself, which is simply a second order differential equation.

Another element is the ‘uncertainty principle’ which in simple terms state that one cannot determine with accuracy the values of position and momentum of a particle at the same time. Here again, position and velocity are conjugal properties. One cannot bring these physical principles into social sciences in any credible manner. What are the observable conjugal qualities in social sciences? What is the equivalent of motion in social sciences? How in the world a social scientist can quantitatively and qualitatively relate physical theories of motion, measurement and conjugal properties to humanities?
So the credibility of post-modern Both/And is subjective, vis a vis the objectivity of the classical Either/Or. In other words, QM cannot disprove the Law of Non-contradiction. Both/And is in the mind of the East.
As regards ‘all truth’ is relative, the Theory of Relativity itself is based on an ABSOLUTE- the constant velocity of light in vacuum. All the constants of the physical realm are ABSOLUTE. No ABSOLUTE, no physicality. What is the ABSOLUTE for any paradigm or theory in Social Sciences? Those who bring in a value system based on the misunderstood theory of Relativity settle that question first.

Beware of elitism with intent, but without content and conscience!

GX

I can understand your confusion Buddha so allow me to summarize. When MobileDigit came on the scene, I at first thought he was a machine because one of his links explained him as being artificial intelligence. As a machine, I was naturally curious about his opinion of the rock band “Rage Against the Machine” to see if he had any negative feelings about that. His feelings were mixed. MobileDigit then posted the following:

And forum member Telemaktar suggested that MobileDigit replace the cerebral cannabis in step 2 with DMT. MobileDigits personal philosophy was vague and difficult to follow so we had an interactive question and answer session that confused me even more. During this time, MobileDigit had a metamorphosis. He had transformed from “MobileDigit” to “TheWeb” which added on a whole new dimension of confusion. Just as I thought I was going to get the answers, MobilDigit/TheWeb stopped posting. I then solicited the help of NoeticCenter to see if he could extrapolate any meaning out of the postings of MobileDigit/TheWeb and sure enough, he thankfully offered a philosophical Noetic explanation of MobileDigit and that’s where we stand so far. I sure do hope MobileDigit/TheWeb hasn’t abandoned us and comes back to post! It was an interesting experience!