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**Skepticologist** · 01-22-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

Skept I admire you being passionate in your beliefs etc. I totally get it. In all seriousness though. Can't you just act like a sane adult and say hello and welcome? Can you just let someone introduce themselves? Do you just run into random people on the street and they say hello and you rip them a new a hole? No. You'd get a beat down in a heart beat. Stop defending your rude behavior in an intro thread. Even first graders learn how to say hello. So no. We won't give it up. You choose an action( being a total a hole to new members in their intro thread) you get the consequence (me being a total bitch to you) It seems fair. I guess I am passionate about teaching you some damned manners.

Ooh! I think I needed that. Only problem is you can't hurt my feelings because I have no self esteem. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me! At least I don't make my responses to Introductions & Greetings posts totally absurd by invoking Unicorns . I mean, where does that come from? What good is only one horn when I've already got three more waiting to instantly replace any that get broken (or merely scatched by some Emily Post of agnostic forums)?

You're going to have to do much better than that to impress me.

Geshtinnanna · 01-22-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

Skept I admire you being passionate in your beliefs etc. I totally get it. In all seriousness though. Can't you just act like a sane adult and say hello and welcome? Can you just let someone introduce themselves? Do you just run into random people on the street and they say hello and you rip them a new a hole? No. You'd get a beat down in a heart beat. Stop defending your rude behavior in an intro thread. Even first graders learn how to say hello. So no. We won't give it up. You choose an action( being a total a hole to new members in their intro thread) you get the consequence (me being a total bitch to you) It seems fair. I guess I am passionate about teaching you some damned manners.

Ooh! I think I needed that. Only problem is you can't hurt my feelings because I have no self esteem. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me! At least I don't make my responses to Introductions & Greetings posts totally absurd by invoking Unicorns . I mean, where does that come from? What good is only one horn when I've already got three more waiting to instantly replace any that get broken (or merely scatched by some Emily Post of agnostic forums)?

You're going to have to do much better than that to impress me.

Just be sane. Can you do that? Because I can see the froth on your face. I am tired of arguing with you over your ill manners. Be a retarded barbarian for all I care. Go on with your bad manner self. Embrace it.
Nite

**Skepticologist** · 01-23-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

Skept I admire you being passionate in your beliefs etc. I totally get it. In all seriousness though. Can't you just act like a sane adult and say hello and welcome? Can you just let someone introduce themselves? Do you just run into random people on the street and they say hello and you rip them a new a hole? No. You'd get a beat down in a heart beat. Stop defending your rude behavior in an intro thread. Even first graders learn how to say hello. So no. We won't give it up. You choose an action( being a total a hole to new members in their intro thread) you get the consequence (me being a total bitch to you) It seems fair. I guess I am passionate about teaching you some damned manners.

Ooh! I think I needed that. Only problem is you can't hurt my feelings because I have no self esteem. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me! At least I don't make my responses to Introductions & Greetings posts totally absurd by invoking Unicorns . I mean, where does that come from? What good is only one horn when I've already got three more waiting to instantly replace any that get broken (or merely scatched by some Emily Post of agnostic forums)?

You're going to have to do much better than that to impress me.

Just be sane. Can you do that? Because I can see the froth on your face. I am tired of arguing with you over your ill manners. Be a retarded barbarian for all I care. Go on with your bad manner self. Embrace it.
Nite

Forgive me, but my experience with "manners" is that they serve no higher purpose than impeding honest dialog. They're all about form and have nothing to do with substance.

AB517 · 01-24-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by Vinterland

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Originally Posted by aljo1

Hello Everyone, This is my first post on this forum. I´m 70% theist, 30% agnostic. I know that God as they put it in each religion, if He exsts must be different than a persona watching over us..He must be more than that..he must be an inteligent source in the universe..a creative force..after all it´s hard to believe that everything that has evolved so perfectly, as every form of life on this planet, came from nothing..can nothing be so well orchestrated?
Anyways, it´s nice to feel free and comment on questions like this on this forum..I´m here to learn and ask deep question about faith, religion and such.
Thanks!

Who are you to say what God must be or not be? I know you're not God.

Also, every agnostic is theist or atheist so don't you think it's more like 50% each for you. No worries whatever it is.

No. Agnosticism, theism and atheism are mutually exclusive philosophies. By thier very definitions they cannot co-exist within the same person.

sorry skept

This is a fundamentalist view.
this is wrong.

Maybe in a dictionary … but not out here

Geshtinnanna · 01-24-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Geshtinnanna

Skept I admire you being passionate in your beliefs etc. I totally get it. In all seriousness though. Can't you just act like a sane adult and say hello and welcome? Can you just let someone introduce themselves? Do you just run into random people on the street and they say hello and you rip them a new a hole? No. You'd get a beat down in a heart beat. Stop defending your rude behavior in an intro thread. Even first graders learn how to say hello. So no. We won't give it up. You choose an action( being a total a hole to new members in their intro thread) you get the consequence (me being a total bitch to you) It seems fair. I guess I am passionate about teaching you some damned manners.

Ooh! I think I needed that. Only problem is you can't hurt my feelings because I have no self esteem. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me! At least I don't make my responses to Introductions & Greetings posts totally absurd by invoking Unicorns . I mean, where does that come from? What good is only one horn when I've already got three more waiting to instantly replace any that get broken (or merely scatched by some Emily Post of agnostic forums)?

You're going to have to do much better than that to impress me.

Just be sane. Can you do that? Because I can see the froth on your face. I am tired of arguing with you over your ill manners. Be a retarded barbarian for all I care. Go on with your bad manner self. Embrace it.
Nite

Forgive me, but my experience with "manners" is that they serve no higher purpose than impeding honest dialog. They're all about form and have nothing to do with substance.

When are rude to people they do not listen to anything you have to say. So you are talking to merely fill the space. Again you want to defend your bad manners. Even children get this. Yet you want to pull your ego and pride in front of you and stop your feet and scream I don't want to be a decent human being and say hello. No no no. I don't wanna. You are a sad petulant child. Someone should spank you for being such a thing. So you can stop defending your bad crappy manners. Be a man and accept this. Be proud of how you want to argue against being an adult. Stop defending. It's pathetic.

shadowind · 01-24-2008, 05:32 PM

i can see how "manners" are annoying, often times people pay to much attention and attach meaning thats not really there to how someone says something, instead of what they say. even through how someone says somthing does often convey a meaning, it might not be the meaning interpreted. i think being blunt is a good thing. but sometimes it might be better to rearrange words, use alternative words and such becuse of possible misinterpretation. i can see how blunt talking or point-counterpoint might scare away fresh blood. fresh blood would be a intresting thing around here. perhaps we should get them hooked on the small joint before we send them on their first big trip

. i don't care though do as you like,( i don't think its really rude, rude is just a behavior thats normally considered offensive by a large portion of sociaty or part of sociaty, if you ask me its also normally trivial or not of great importance, although sometimes not pleasent, especially peoples reactions.)

AB517 · 01-24-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowind

i can see how "manners" are annoying, often times people pay to much attention and attach meaning thats not really there to how someone says something, instead of what they say. even through how someone says somthing does often convey a meaning, it might not be the meaning interpreted. i think being blunt is a good thing. but sometimes it might be better to rearrange words, use alternative words and such becuse of possible misinterpretation. i can see how blunt talking or point-counterpoint might scare away fresh blood. fresh blood would be a intresting thing around here. perhaps we should get them hooked on the small joint before we send them on their first big trip

. i don't care though do as you like,( i don't think its really rude, rude is just a behavior thats normally considered offensive by a large portion of sociaty or part of sociaty, if you ask me its also normally trivial or not of great importance, although sometimes not pleasent, especially peoples reactions.)

Blunt? This is all crap.
It doesn’t scare away your "flesh blood.”
Don’t give yourself that much credit.

shadowind · 01-25-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AB517

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Originally Posted by shadowind

i can see how "manners" are annoying, often times people pay to much attention and attach meaning thats not really there to how someone says something, instead of what they say. even through how someone says somthing does often convey a meaning, it might not be the meaning interpreted. i think being blunt is a good thing. but sometimes it might be better to rearrange words, use alternative words and such becuse of possible misinterpretation. i can see how blunt talking or point-counterpoint might scare away fresh blood. fresh blood would be a intresting thing around here. perhaps we should get them hooked on the small joint before we send them on their first big trip

. i don't care though do as you like,( i don't think its really rude, rude is just a behavior thats normally considered offensive by a large portion of sociaty or part of sociaty, if you ask me its also normally trivial or not of great importance, although sometimes not pleasent, especially peoples reactions.)

Blunt? This is all crap.
It doesn’t scare away your "flesh blood.”
Don’t give yourself that much credit.

well not the type of fresh blood i'll prefer to have around here. but somepeople are afraid of conflict, becuse it questions their perceived reality. it might be helpful to first have them feel welcomed before they wrongly percieved questioning of their ideas as an attack. but if they perceive it that way and is so defensive their not probally gonna stick around for long or be the most enjoyable person to debate with. i don't mind turning a intro thread into a discussion on a topic. most likly the person looked around before they joined and started a intro thread too, so they should expect similar behavior to them as observed to others. do as you like.

**Skepticologist** · 01-25-2008, 06:06 PM

I swear, based on the vitriole directed against me, I just assumed I must have said something really terrible to a first-time poster. So I decided to look back to see just how terrible it was, as follows:

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Originally Posted by Skepticologist

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Originally Posted by aljo1

Hello Everyone, This is my first post on this forum. I´m 70% theist, 30% agnostic. I know that God as they put it in each religion, if He exsts must be different than a persona watching over us..He must be more than that..he must be an inteligent source in the universe..a creative force..after all it´s hard to believe that everything that has evolved so perfectly, as every form of life on this planet, came from nothing..can nothing be so well orchestrated?
Anyways, it´s nice to feel free and comment on questions like this on this forum..I´m here to learn and ask deep question about faith, religion and such.
Thanks!

Hi Aljo, and welcome. I have to admit to a certain attraction to the "intelligent design" theory myself. It anwers some questions, although not as many as organized religion does.

I'm interested in your 70/30 split between theism and agnosticism. Does that mean you're 70% certain there's a supreme being and 30% uncertain?

I predict that, if you're serious and objective about your search, you'll find that there's no more substantive reason to believe in a nebulous intelligent designer than one who's been named jehovah or allah.

Like you (I'm guessing), I've found it hard to observe all the complexity and order of the universe and not believe there's some plan behind it. But that supposition is all I've found to support such a theory and, as such, I've had to relegate it to the category of unknown and (so far) unknowable.

Maybe it's just my "barbarian" insensibility, but the foregoing doesn't seem all that horrible to me. It was only after Vinterland interposed some of his usual hyperbole and Geshti imposed her rules of etiquette that I somehow became the object of disdain.

In the meantime, we've allowed ourselves to be diverted into a meaningless stream of diatribe that has led nowhere, except maybe to provide some degree of self-reinforcement for those among us who see themselves as arbiters of acceptibilty with regard to forum posts. If they can find no higher calling, I guess that'll have to do.

AB517 · 01-25-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowind

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Originally Posted by shadowind

i can see how "manners" are annoying, often times people pay to much attention and attach meaning thats not really there to how someone says something, instead of what they say. even through how someone says somthing does often convey a meaning, it might not be the meaning interpreted. i think being blunt is a good thing. but sometimes it might be better to rearrange words, use alternative words and such becuse of possible misinterpretation. i can see how blunt talking or point-counterpoint might scare away fresh blood. fresh blood would be a intresting thing around here. perhaps we should get them hooked on the small joint before we send them on their first big trip

. i don't care though do as you like,( i don't think its really rude, rude is just a behavior thats normally considered offensive by a large portion of sociaty or part of sociaty, if you ask me its also normally trivial or not of great importance, although sometimes not pleasent, especially peoples reactions.)

Blunt? This is all crap.
It doesn’t scare away your "flesh blood.”
Don’t give yourself that much credit.

well not the type of fresh blood i'll prefer to have around here. but somepeople are afraid of conflict, becuse it questions their perceived reality. it might be helpful to first have them feel welcomed before they wrongly percieved questioning of their ideas as an attack. but if they perceive it that way and is so defensive their not probally gonna stick around for long or be the most enjoyable person to debate with. i don't mind turning a intro thread into a discussion on a topic. most likly the person looked around before they joined and started a intro thread too, so they should expect similar behavior to them as observed to others. do as you like.

It is easy, just leave out negative adjectives.

Is the post for the other person or you?
Is it to help each other or prove to yourself how great you are?

I judge a man on how he treats people that can not cut his throat, only a biltch runs his mouth when they can’t get their front teeth kicked in.

Telling some one they are wrong without trying to understand them or teach/learn from each other is just a bummer. I kick myself in the arse because I lose out on a learning opportunity because I can’t keep my big mouth shut. I have done here, sorry to say, but I am working on less negatives.