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Old 12-06-2007, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New here and enjoying the forums so far and glad so many other people with similar viewpoints on God as me.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum!

What exactly are your view points on God? Were you raised in a religion (like many of us here were)?

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Old 12-06-2007, 09:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum!

What exactly are your view points on God? Were you raised in a religion (like many of us here were)?

Again, welcome!
Kevin...

I am a recovering Catholic... I personally believe in God but think religion is man made. We can not understand the true nature of God. We don't need the church to tell us the path because he has built inside us a moral compass. We just need to learn look in our selves to use it. I am still finding the path and it will take a lifetime to complete.

Hoping to learn much from this site...
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Hello and welcome to the board! Like you I believe in God and I strongly suspect theistic religions that claim to know God are man-made as well, but I don't deny the possibility of them being true.

How are you applying your new beliefs to your "new life"?

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Hello and welcome to the board! Like you I believe in God and I strongly suspect theistic religions that claim to know God are man-made as well, but I don't deny the possibility of them being true.

How are you applying your new beliefs to your "new life"?

Hope you enjoy the board.
Vinterland...

Thanks for the welcome... Not sure what made you think I now have a "new life"? Always have had Agnostic ideas even when a kid and going to Sunday school. I would say now older trying to define more my beliefs and philosophy on life. It's an never ending journey to truth...
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I am a recovering Catholic... I personally believe in God but think religion is man made. We can not understand the true nature of God. We don't need the church to tell us the path because he has built inside us a moral compass. We just need to learn look in our selves to use it.
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Like you I believe in God and I strongly suspect theistic religions that claim to know God are man-made as well, but I don't deny the possibility of them being true.
Just wondering . . . if you either strongly suspect or outright disbelieve the concepts of god offered by organized religion, what exactly is the concept you subscribe to, and what difference does it make in your daily life?

Like you, MJ, I don't think we need a set of official moral values sanctioned by a religious institution. In fact, I've been thinking a lot about the possibilty that our morality is naturally driven by our innate interest in perpetuating our species. As such, I'm not sure why you assume that such moral values come from a nebulous supreme being whom you are apparently unable to describe.

Vinterland, I pose essentially the same question to you. You claim to be dubious about god as described by any of the world religions, but you continue to believe that some kind of god exists. So how do you describe the god you believe in? How did you come to your knowledge of him or her or it? What's different about how you live your life because of your belief?
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Just wondering . . . if you either strongly suspect or outright disbelieve the concepts of god offered by organized religion, what exactly is the concept you subscribe to, and what difference does it make in your daily life?

Like you, MJ, I don't think we need a set of official moral values sanctioned by a religious institution. In fact, I've been thinking a lot about the possibilty that our morality is naturally driven by our innate interest in perpetuating our species. As such, I'm not sure why you assume that such moral values come from a nebulous supreme being whom you are apparently unable to describe.
Skepticologist...

I never said can prove that God exists but it is a personal belief of mine. There must be something bigger then just man. Yes, can be agnostic and still believe in God. I also never said moral values come from God but that he enabled us with a moral compass. A compass points you in the right direction but you need to find the path.

I will be hopefully be able answer your question better when at the near completion of my life since still long journey ahead for me.
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