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11-30-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sherrib  I am new to this forum. I am not really young (46), so have put alot of thought into my ideas/beliefs over the years. I have not found anyone who shares my ideas/beliefs exactly, but some that are close. I once thought that I could be considered Pagan, but rituals aren't my thing. I do not rule out some unseen connection amongst all living things. I am in awe of life science, and I teach it in middle school. Ironically, science strengthens my belief that there is a connection of some sort. But, one god, multiple gods, specific rituals; I consider those manmade. So, where do I fit in? Don't really know. I do know that I do not feel a disdain for others' beliefs. I think that it is more natural for humans to need a specific higher power. I wish I could believe this way, life would be easier for me. Unfortunately, it would be a lie for me. So, if anyone else out there thinks like me, please let me know. But, if you belong to an organized religion, please don't waste your energy. | Science is neither theistic or atheistic, and I am also wondering what you mean by "...connection amongst all living things"?
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And on we walked. Suddenly we heard a voice crying, "This is the sea. This is the deep sea. This is the vast and mighty sea." And when we reached the voice it was a man whose back was turned to the sea, and at his ear he held a shell, listening to its murmur.
And my soul said, "Let us pass on. He is the realist, who turns his back on the whole he cannot grasp, and busies himself with a fragment."
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11-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Katnip89 I've also been ridiculed by my peers for not having a belief system. Do you know what it's like having agnostic as my religion for my dog tag? I'm leaving for boot camp in 2 months and i'm nervous to stand up for what I believe in. When the instructors occasionally beat peoples asses for not being christian, because they are so ridiculous in their own moral values. But you know what.. and excuse my language.. F--- them. I don't believe anyone is superior to anyone else in this world. no matter what circumstance, religion, race, sex, or intelligence. I hate it when people think they are more important than anyone else, because we are all human beings. and If i have to get my ass kicked around for what I believe in , I say do it every day, because they'll never change my mind. | I think you should at least respect people for, well, being people. Agnostics are either atheists or theists, and I think these particular people are better able participate in discussion and exchange ideas/beliefs, etc.
For the people that are intelligent, dealing with people with vastly different beliefs is a way to observe and examine those beliefs, and then seee the flaws in them, AND their own religion/beliefs. Another focus is to find truth of the spiriutal world.
Keep in mind all theists have rationale that support their beliefs; it may not be good logic according to your standards, but theyre not robots.
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And on we walked. Suddenly we heard a voice crying, "This is the sea. This is the deep sea. This is the vast and mighty sea." And when we reached the voice it was a man whose back was turned to the sea, and at his ear he held a shell, listening to its murmur.
And my soul said, "Let us pass on. He is the realist, who turns his back on the whole he cannot grasp, and busies himself with a fragment."
—Gibran Khalil Gibran, “The Greater Sea.” | |
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12-01-2007, 02:25 PM
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Katnip, you say you're going to boot camp? Way back, I served in the Navy. My dog tags, I believe, said "No preference". I don't remember agnostic as a choice. May I ask why you have enlisted? | |
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12-01-2007, 02:29 PM
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Also, when I was in boot camp, religion was never an issue at all. In fact, during my time in the Navy, I witnessed very little predjudice relating to religion, race, and gender. Sexual preference, however, was under attack at that time, and I knew several people who were objects of a "witch hunt". | |
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