niranjan

It seems evident that the will possesses no direct power over the intuitive function; it can even hamper its functioning. But the will can perform a most helpful indirect action; it can create and keep clear the channel of communication along which the intuitive impressions descend. It does this by imposing a temporary check on the distracting activities of the other psychological functions.

The will can encourage (encourage, not coerce, I repeat) the intuitive operation by formulating questions to be addressed to the superconscious sphere, the seat of the intuition. These questions must be given a clear and precise form. The replies may come promptly, but more often they appear after a lapse of time and when least expected. Roberto Assagioli, The Act of Will, pp. 195-196

Intuition, as well as the other psychological functions, can be activated, following the general law that attention and interest foster their manifestation. It has been said that attention has feeding power; it has also a focusing power. One could even say that it has an evocative power, and attention really implies appreciation and therefore valuation.

A characteristic of intuitions is that they are fleeting and, curiously, very easily forgotten, in spite of the fact that at the time they enter the field of consciousness they are very vivid and the subject does not think he can or will forget them easily. Such intuitions can be likened to a stray bird entering a room, circling swiftly around it, and then after a few seconds flying out of the window. The practical deduction from this "fleeting" characteristic is to write down immediately any intuitions we may have more particularly when we recall the distorting effect of time on all our recollections.
Intuition is the creative advance towards reality. Intellect has, first, the valuable and necessary function of interpreting, i.e., of translating, verbalizing in acceptable mental terms, the results of the intuition. Second, to check its validity; and third, to coordinate and to include it into the body of already accepted knowledge. These functions are the rightful activity of the intellect, without its trying to assume functions which are not its province. A really fine and harmonious interplay between the two can work perfectly in a successive rhythm: intuitional insight, interpretation, further insight and its interpretation, and so on.

Roberto Assagioli, Psychosynthesis: A Manual of Principles and Techniques, pp. 218-223

The An-Jel

Yeah I have the same problem with terminology Og has. I kind of was raised in the streets more or less and a person simply becomes aware of their surroundings by habit. Your senses become a more aware of say: "some (human) predator wanting what you got and you don't got much so you want to keep it" to be profane. I mean the intense training of a samurai must be extraordinarily intense as Og described.

Blind people that use their other senses to cope with the loss of their sight really is the best example that comes to mind unless you consider this some kind of superconsciousness that takes over. I think it's the distinction between natural awareness and superconsciousness that eludes me in this conversation.

I mean I have done things through my societal and natural experiences that people have called me a 'psychic'. I said preposterous... stand in my shoes I tell them for a day and you'd understand. Mind you I don't think at all I am on par with a Samurai or a Zen Master but training and mental discipline under extreme conditions can produce some fantastic (fantasy-like) results.

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niranjan

I understand your scepticism and you have every right to it.


However I must say that western psychology , is just two to three centuries old. Even the study of the subconscious has only come up relatively recenty. Indian psychology on the other hand is thousands of years old.

When I say this , I am not trying to show off, but just stating a fact.

Through yoga and meditation, these yogis have gone to the depths of the subconscious mind and to the heights of the superconscious mind.


And this is what is manifesting in the form of Krishna, Buddha, Mahavira, Guru Nanak, Ramakrishna, Paramahamsa Yogananda, Swami Vivekananda,sri Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi , Osho, Ramana Maharshi and others, and each one of them has influenced millions throughout the world.

And for this reason, I believe Indian spirituality and psychology is worth a serious study.

niranjan

Yes, I agree with you . Anticipation is not the right word. You must pardon this fault of mine on the grounds that english is not my mother tongue. I was also in a bit of a hurry and had no time to think of the right terms.

I think the proper thing to say is that the samurai, during combat, receives intuitions on the moves of his adversary and responds in advance.

Og

I was actually saying that he was wrong and providing a reasonable neural basis for intuition that wasn't available to Jung in his time.

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Og

Ahh well.. This is definitely the eastern approach and I appreciate it. It's not for me. My approach is not even remotely limited and is rooted in reason and is in no way limited in its growth by that. In fact, a reasoned approach facilitates the growth of my experience.

I appreciate this and I marvel at how they had so much dead on for thousands of years. It's also the case that modern medicine has done more in the last 20 years than humanity has developed over its entire existence to forward the understanding of who and what we are.

I am in the field of Neuroscience at my university. I see a bunch of studies of brains of a variety of animals when they're performing a variety of tasks. It's highly complex, but not supernatural. Whatever state of consciousness or intuition you're describing, it's reasonable and rational. It's a state of physical firing of neurons in the brain.

Modern science is my vehicle to enlightenment But we all must find our own way.

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The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships
You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
Become Who You Are

The An-Jel

Wow ok I think we have the foundation down!

Well done!

Now how are the Islamic terrorists that are building the American mythology of Fear creating their own disparity narinjan?

It appears superconsciousness is your approach.

It may be delusional.

It appears psychological and cultural to me.

So once again with the Christians and Islamists... I don't get it.

Is there a God or is there a Superconsciousness that supercedes religion?

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niranjan

So, has modern science proven conclusively with scientific research that intuition is purely a biological process. Just curious....


If that is so, I wouldn't be surprised . An enlightened master , who have achieved perfect cessation of mind, has said to me that the physical body supplies the knowledge that one needs and that it should not be underestimated.

And again I repeat, I never have said that intuition is not a physical process.

niranjan

I again have to repeat , Swami Vivekananda used the term 'supernatural' in the sense that it was definetely not a natural phenomenon then. And he earnestly wanted it to be a natural phenomenon.

And also I am talking about human beings, who have a much superior nervous system and brain compared to animals. You don't see a Ramanujan or a Buddha or a Leonardo among animals.

Have there been tests on human beings , especially yogis, when they were in a state of superconsciousness, or a peak state of intuition ?

niranjan

Synthesis on the Scientific Research on the effects of using the Laya Yoga Meditation Technique

l. Levels of profound relaxation
During the practice of Laya Yoga the oxygen consumption and the metabolism decreases considerably, showing a state of deep rest.

2. Natural variation of the breathing rhythm
During the practice of Laya Yoga the breathing rhythm decreases significantly, showing a state of deep relaxation and rest of the nervous system.

3. Diminution of the cardiac activity
During Laya Yoga the activity of the heart decreases, since the heart muscle is safely resting.

4. Biochemical variations
A strong concentration of lactic acid in the blood is generally associated with tiredness, high levels of stress, nervous breakdown, psychic tension and hypertension. During the Laya Yoga the concentration of the lactic acid is decreasing rapidly.

5. Deep rest
The electrodermal resistance of the skin diminishes under the influence of stress, worries or anxiety. While practicing Laya Yoga the electrodermal resistance increases dramatically, this fact showing a deep rest coupled with diminution of anxieties and emotional disturbances. The practitioners of this technique control stress much better than those who do not practice it. Therefore, the practice of this technique strengthens the nervous system of the individual, and allows him to react with better efficacy to the challenges of the environment.

6. State of hyper-wakefulness with deep rest
While Laya Yoga is practiced, the cerebral waves with a frequency of 8-9 cycles per second are propagated towards the frontal region of the brain, with the occasional occurrence of synchronous waves with a frequency of 5-7 cycles per second. These cerebral waves show a unique physiological state that is totally different from the state of wakefulness and sleep: it is a state of hyper vigilence simultaneous with a deep rest.

7. Synchronization of the cerebral waves
While practicing Laya Yoga the various cerebral waves have a tendency to regroup, to become rhythmic, with a constant frequency, in the same time entering into a harmonious state. The passing from the state of wakefulness to the state of sleep is a natural change, more or less gradual, as it is indicated by the passing from the Alpha waves to slower waves. In the same way, the transition from one stage of Laya Yoga to another is a natural, effortless and gradual transformation, shown by the passing from Theta to Alpha frequencies. Therefore, the Laya Yoga technique is a new form of repose, different from drowsiness or sleep.
The Laya Yoga technique induces the direct experience of a much deeper repose, simultaneously with a state of increased vigilance. The careful comparison of the cerebral waves during the states of wakefulness, sleep and dream, with the characteristic patterns that appear during the Laya Yoga technique in its different phases, strongly suggests the appearance of a fourth major state of consciousness.

8. Synchronization of the cerebral waves (II)
The Laya Yoga technique synchronizes the different frequencies of the cerebral waves of the right and left hemisphere, leading to concordance of phase and coherence. This phenomenon leads to a harmonious development of intelligence and of the capacity of learning. All these facts indicate a better integration between the analytical, verbal and sympathetic functions of the left hemisphere and the functions of intuition and space-time orientation of the right hemisphere. Relying on this much better integration, due to the Laya Yoga technique, the nervous system becomes more flexible and at the same time more stable.

9. Synchronisation of the cerebral waves (III)
During the Laya Yoga technique, the frequencies of the Alpha waves (from 8 to 12 Hz) are diffusing spontaneously, without any effort, from the posterior to the frontal areas of the brain. This shows a better coordination between the posterior perceptive areas, and the motor areas of the frontal part. This improves greatly the psychomotor coordination as well as the superior functions of the brain.

10. Stabilization of the physiological improvements (I)
The Laya Yoga technique induces a clearly superior physiological repose. This entails a gradual and beneficial reduction of the heart-rhythm, and therefore a more reduced wear of the heart and an increased cardiovascular efficiency.
11. Stabilization of the physiological improvements (II)
The Laya Yoga technique produces a clearly superior physiological repose, with the stabilization of a calm breathing, which lasts even after finishing the actual practice of the technique. This fact will entail a permanent and beneficial slowing down of the rhythm of the breath, which proves obviously that the body works better.

12. Improvement of reaction time
The Laya Yoga technique considerably improves the reaction time, this fact showing a greater vivacity, a better coordination between mind and body, less inertia, a greater acuity of perception and a better efficiency in action.

13. Increased capacity of perception
The improvement of the auditory acuity in subjects who practice this technique indicates that after the actual practice of the Laya Yoga technique the perception is much more clear and refined.

14. Improvement of the capacity of memorizing and learning
The results obviously show that the practitioners succeed better in memory tests and they learn faster than the ones who never practiced.

15. Increased productivity (I)
The practitioners show a better contentment with the results of their work, having a better efficiency, a better work stability and better relationship with their superiors and colleagues.

16. Harmonization of personality and actualisation of the Higher Self
Compared with a group of people who have never practiced the Laya Yoga technique, the results of the ones who have practiced daily for two months show an improvement of autonomy and emancipation, a better integration in time and space, tendency to live in the present (with a harmonious integration of the past and future), higher spontaneity and sensitiveness towards own needs and feelings, serene accepting of oneself, aptitude to create more interpersonal relationships based on affectionate feelings, flexibility in using own values. It can also be noticed an obvious improvement of personality, with an actualization of the higher self, state which manifests as a higher level of inner maturity. In the same time, the personal identity is crystallized.

17. Improvements at the psychic level
The practitioners of the Laya Yoga technique will perceive:
1) diminishing of anxiety, less psychosomatic maladies
2) diminishing of depressive tendencies, increased self confidence and contentment
3) diminishing of irritability, much more tolerance
and calm in frustrating situations
4) increased sociability and friendliness
5) tendency to trust people more
6) diminution of the tendency to dominate others, more respect, cordiality, flexibility, tolerance
7) less inhibitions, much more naturalness, spontaneity and independence
8) improved emotional stability and a very clear aptitude towards mental concentration
9) increased emotional stability and efficiency
18. Decreasing of the arterial tension
It was noticed that the arterial tension significantly returns to normal after a certain period of practice of the Laya Yoga technique, fact which makes obvious the clinical value of the Laya Yoga technique for the treatment of the hypertension.