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Old 08-30-2006, 09:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default interesting - similarity between Krishna and Yeshua

Krishna "came onto earth to cleanse the sins of the human beings."

"Krishna was born while his foster-father Nanda was in the city to pay his tax to the king."

Yeshua was born while his foster-father, Joseph, was in the city to be enumerated in a census so that "all the world could be taxed."

Jesus is recorded as saying: "if you had faith as a mustard seed you would say to the mountain uproot yourself and be cast into the ocean" Krishna is reported as having uprooted a small mountain.

Krishna's "...foster-father Nanda had to journey to Mathura to pay his taxes" just as Jesus foster-father Joseph is recorded in the Gospel of Luke as having to go to Bethlehem to pay taxes.

The story about the birth of Elizabeth's son John (the Baptist), cousin of Jesus, corresponds with the story in the Krishna myth about the birth of the child of Nanda and his wife Yasoda."

The Greek God Dionysos, Jesus and Krishna were all said to have been placed in a manger basket after birth.
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Did Krishna approve of Hinduisms caste system that preaches that all people are not created equal and that some must stay in the gutter?
This National Geographic article spells it out -
Untouchable @ National Geographic Magazine
(Excerpt) - "Discrimination against India's lowest Hindu castes is technically illegal. But try telling that to the 160 million Untouchables, who face violent reprisals if they forget their place"

What a differnce to glorious Christianity, which loves beggars -
"[God] raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory:" (Isaiah 2:8KJV)
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The story about the birth of Elizabeth's son John (the Baptist), cousin of Jesus, corresponds with the story in the Krishna myth about the birth of the child of Nanda and his wife Yasoda."

The Greek God Dionysos, Jesus and Krishna were all said to have been placed in a manger basket after birth.
I find it very interesting how so many parts of modern day religions share stories with older religions or ones that are now considered myths.

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Old 12-17-2006, 09:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I sometimes like to think that all the religions are connected, somehow, by these stories that seem so similar. It makes me wonder what the root of these stories are.
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I sometimes like to think that all the religions are connected, somehow, by these stories that seem so similar. It makes me wonder what the root of these stories are.
There is a terrific book that compares many similar themes in different religions within a historical context - you might want to take a look - it's From Primatives to Zen by Mircea Eliade. I read it for the first time 20 years ao, and it's a book that I keep coming back to because it is very, very illuminating (no pun intended ).
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I sometimes like to think that all the religions are connected, somehow, by these stories that seem so similar. It makes me wonder what the root of these stories are.
See Joseph Campbell. Great theologian of our time. Comparative theology. Discovering the similarities across religions.

He's an empowering voice for agnostics. He really expresses a distaste for the paradigm set up where people are either force to believe in a mythology as a factual dogma or to call it a lie and label yourself an atheist.

The Agnostic, on the other hand does neither and prefers to look at the myth as a metaphor. Unfortunately, the above listed "Concrete" positions cast disparaging remarks on the agnostic and call them "pussies" (see threads on these forums) and "fence sitters" because they don't share in the partisan polarization that is the state of current religion (and has been through the dark ages).

Fortunately, there's great personal reward in discovering the realities of humanity and success of stories such as the Da Vinci code build off of the popularity of "mythologies as metaphors" that was really invigorated in today's culture by Campbell.

It's really an expression of the power of the burgeoning non-dogmatic scientific culture. It's very healthy stuff.
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Did Krishna approve of Hinduisms caste system that preaches that all people are not created equal and that some must stay in the gutter?
This National Geographic article spells it out -
Untouchable @ National Geographic Magazine
(Excerpt) - "Discrimination against India's lowest Hindu castes is technically illegal. But try telling that to the 160 million Untouchables, who face violent reprisals if they forget their place"

What a differnce to glorious Christianity, which loves beggars -
"[God] raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory:" (Isaiah 2:8KJV)
Hey Mick, i'm also in england

I discussed this issue with a close friend of mine here at Uni who is Indian. First of all he showed a great amount of anger when talking about those who have used the cast system, although today it is not as prevalent as it used to be. He said it was never part of true Hinduism, rather it was created by those seeking power and used it as an excuse to put others down. In my opinion every religion has their growing pains- just like christianity and their sinister witch hunts, sadistic popes, crusades, etc etc
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Wow... I like this thread. Compare modern religions with old mythologies. What a concept! Yes... if you look deep you will be scared when you compare Greek mythology with everything. I think the Greeks were far more liberated... the Japanese were too incidently... the Greeks were suppressed a long time ago and the Japanese have only been recently suppressed by nuclear means. Thoughts only... nothing concrete for me... just thoughts.

I remember hearing in the news that a Japanese ship was found off the coast of California. It was old of course. How much truth was in this for the knowing
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I find it very interesting how so many parts of modern day religions share stories with older religions or ones that are now considered myths.

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the reason is actually quite simple and is part of the christian faith as well. As we know from the religions of jeudasim, christianity, and Islam god sent prophets to every nation but after a while each prophets message would die out and people would start addingthings to the religion, and then another prophet would come to correct the people but people eventually add things to their religion and deviate. Thats why in every relgion you find remenatnts of an older belief which if you look at connects to monothiesm.

by the way that all in the quran i just paraphrased
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This world is like a garland and all the religions of the world are flowers of that garland connected to each other with the thread of love. So we should love and respect all the religions equally. Fill your heart with love, you will find that lord krishna and yeshua are one.

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