neverforever

I just got a few things to point thats wrong with your argument sorry if these have already been mentioned.

First of all something lasting forever out of time well lets see I rember learning in science class that time was created by human thinking lets see what do we measure time by the earth rotating around the sun so that would mean if i was on mercury i would be a lot older since time goes faster right.

And alot of stuff that you said the bible predicted were also writen in it so if someone made it all up then of course.

VenomFangX

The way we measure time, in seconds and minutes and hours, is absolutely man made. However, what we are measuring does exist (time). Likewise, the way we measure space with inches, yards and miles is made made, but what we are measuring does exist (space).

My point is, if there was an infinite amount of time before right now (a never ending amount of time), we never would have reached this moment in time. That proves there was a beginning of time.

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duck

Actually, that proves nothing. Just that you understand the use of circular reasoning to prove a fallacy. Its a rhetorical tool I am seeing more and more from those trying to save souls with the word.

jaej

Um...I guess.

You understand you wouldn't be any chronologically older than you would be had you lived on earth? In other words, you would live the exact same amount of time, but you would have lived a lot more Mercury years than Earth years.

Ah, pascal's wager. The first refuge of the incompetent.

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double posted by accident. read below.

Kevin

Venom, basically all that you say is far fetched and unproven. You can't prove that there was a virgin who gave birth. You can't prove that an eternal spirit created the world and the universe. You can't prove homosexuals choose their sexuality.

You can't prove anything.

You're just another close minded, can't think for yourself, gullible person who believes everything in the Bible despite how ridiculous it sounds and despite how science has disproved it in many aspects.

duck

Not to mention getting brownie points for arguing christian values to the unsaved on the internet with weak rhetoric.

VenomFangX

Venom, basically all that you say is far fetched and unproven. You can't prove that there was a virgin who gave birth. -Keith

And you can't prove that there wasn't. What's your point?

I have a book, which claims to be from God. It has prophecy and facts in it that can not be explained by human origin (refer to my original post). The Bible makes promises, which have all come true for me. Thus, I can reasonably conclude that the virgin birth did take place, with confidence.

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debdodd

fang, you and warningu need to get together and have a party. You both are bigots .... leave us alone, you sad silly people!

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neverforever

Wait a second Lets see its been a few years since I was in School but I'm pretty sure that i remember something about virgins cant have baby's something about only having an egg and no sperm.