Proving the existence of God - Page 2

jaej · 07-04-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezekial 26:7-14

7 "For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar [a] king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army. 8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you. 9 He will direct the blows of his battering rams against your walls and demolish your towers with his weapons. 10 His horses will be so many that they will cover you with dust. Your walls will tremble at the noise of the war horses, wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through. 11 The hoofs of his horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. 12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea. 13 I will put an end to your noisy songs, and the music of your harps will be heard no more. 14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the LORD have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD.

This says nothing about alexander the great. It says Nebuchadnezzar would crush them, which historically did not happen.

duck · 07-04-2007, 05:14 PM

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It was often attacked by Egypt, besieged by Shalmaneser V, who was assisted by the Phoenicians of the mainland, for five years, and by Nebuchadnezzar (586–573 BC) for thirteen years, without success, although a compromise peace was made in which Tyre paid tribute to the Babylonians. It later fell under the power of the Persians.

This is what I thought. This is why the Tyreans considered themselves unconquerable as Alexander's army approached.

Wulfric · 07-04-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VenomFangX

Homosexuals are usually not homosexual to begin with. They usually start with normal sexual patterns, and even have a wife and kids. Then they begin watching pornography, or hanging out in the wrong places, and find themselves in the pursuit of lust. Lust, like all counter-fits, never satisfies like love does. So, they go into deeper, and darker perversions, until they reach homosexuality. God designed sex to be between and man and women; if we were all gay, we'd all be dead. Sickness, illness, and family retardation are just a few of the effects of homosexuality; it is not how God intended sex to be. Homosexuality is simply lust, a perversion, with nothing at all to do with love; the true design of God.

Ugh

Just like to point out, can't speak for the rest of the homosexual populace, but I know I've certainly never been straight, I do not hang out in 'the wrong places' (please define?) and I have felt love. For another male.

I really don't understand the justification of this view of homosexuals. We aren't a bunch of cackling demon-beasts who sacrifice human babies then have violent, unconsenting sex with innocent straight men in a pool of their blood.

I have never been involved in 'deeper, and darker perversions' (again, define?) which led me to my 'homosexual perversion'.

I suspect, however, that there was really absolutely no point in my typing this, though, as you will never change. It's such a shame, really.

duck · 07-04-2007, 08:42 PM

Well said, Wulfric. These types never change. They espouse hate of things they don't understand because some preacher told them "The Facts" or they read it in a bible.

We haven't even touched on the issue of bisexuality...

jaej · 07-04-2007, 09:09 PM

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I really don't understand the justification of this view of homosexuals. We aren't a bunch of cackling demon-beasts who sacrifice human babies then have violent, unconsenting sex with innocent straight men in a pool of their blood.

I seriously laughed out loud for like a minute after reading this. You are my hero.

jaej · 07-04-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by duck

Well said, Wulfric. These types never change. They espouse hate of things they don't understand because some preacher told them "The Facts" or they read it in a bible.

We haven't even touched on the issue of bisexuality...

My favorite is when christian organizations sue universities, protesting the colleges' actions to prevent discriminaiton against non-christians, homosexuals, etc. Christians are saying that not being able to discriminate against them violates their freedom of religion!! Are you freaking kidding???

duck · 07-04-2007, 10:02 PM

Have you seen the fire storm the fundies are having over the Hate Crimes bill? They insist that the bill would outlaw a pastor from declaring homosexuality a sin. Not sure that is a correct interpretation, but the marches and anti *?* rallies would certainly be labeled as hate speech.

jaej · 07-04-2007, 10:06 PM

I know!! It's insanity!! Label it as free speech and those fundies would be ****ed into next week, but label it as free religion and it's 'oh, well, we don't want to restrict your religion, so...carry on then.'

**The An-Jel** · 07-04-2007, 10:26 PM

Ah you guys are killing me. Indeed the Christians need to get out of their Hobbit Hovels (I apologize to the fictional characters of JRR Tolkein and JRR Tolkein himself RIP) and take a look at the way the world REALLY works.

jaej · 07-04-2007, 10:36 PM

Haha I love your disclaimer.

Was the v in holes an accident?