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Old 09-08-2006, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was thinking and it occured to me that if there really is a God we are all still likely to go to hell Christians, Islamists, Jews, Hindu, whomever.

Because the original teachings of most scriptures are lost and have been replaced with translations and interpretations. So the point is it is quite likely that none of the religious leaders alive today that are supposed to be guiding you spiritually are likely to actually know if what they are teaching is the correct way. Nevermind which one you should choose to follow.

So that being said even as an agnostic myself I have to acknowledge that it is entirely possible that there could be a God. Point is it seems even believers are just as likely to not be on his good side as I am.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes. It will be one "hell" of a party. 99.99% of everyone will be there.

One of the things that really amazes me is how anyone in anytown in any church can actually believe that they are on the right path to heaven. When you get right down to it, there is a lot more disagreement than agreement on what it takes to get to heaven.
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Old 09-10-2006, 11:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd prefer to not join a club that requires you to believe other people are going to burn eternally because they didn't join your club. And as you said, which club is right? Which ones will burn forever? I prefer to live the life I know I have now, because the consequences for being good or bad are now. If you are a bad person, you will suffer here on Earth. If you are a good person, you will reap the rewards... here on Earth.

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Old 09-10-2006, 10:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You know, if there is a God who is trying to raise his children in a particular path, there's no way all of them are going to do everything the "right" way. This will be because of communication problems, interpretation problems, human nature, natural disasters, etc.

So like any well adjusted child, my attitude is I'll do the best I can, and if I don't meet your standard, we then, that's your problem.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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As one who does not believe in a permanent state of torment and that eventually all of creation will be reconciled with Deity, I agree that we will all be together in one great hereafter eventually - and I think it will be a wonderful opportunity to do so many things that we never get around to while on this plane of existence.
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Old 09-17-2006, 02:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I personally believe each religion has truths in it.Even if its a very small part.I really don't think it depends on what religion you follow as it does just having faith in God himself/herself or whatever else your religion calls the higher power.Why get stuck on the small stuff when in the end you might just find out you are wrong.

Just be the best person you can be and in the end all will be good IMO.
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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This is a very good point. But it is also the reason I believe in agnosticism. Religion is just a good idea. IT gives us a set of standards to make sure that we live our lives as decent human beings. I believe that God is someone who will take stock in our morals and our doings instead of our evangicalism. We should teach religion by example instead of shoving it down people's throats. And while the bible has many truths on how to be the ideal person it is 2000 years from being the word of God that it may have once been. We cannot take stock in it verbatim anymore. Follow this equation:
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm not too worried - even when I was a Christian I didn't believe in Hell as some sort of dungeon that God threw you in if you believed the wrong things or just weren't up to snuff. I pretty much took my view of Hell straight from C.S. Lewis: it's something you make yourself into, not a place where God puts you.
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I just stare at christians sometimes and wonder how they can be so brainwashed that they defend the indefendable. And believe in it with all their hearts. I mean cmon, I can understand wanting to believe in it. Wouldn't it be great if there were some magical deity that loved us? But believing in it for no other reason than because you want to is weak. No other word can describe it.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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On a lighter note, floyd336's post about how 99.99% of people are going to end up in hell if any one of the religions/denominations proves true reminded me of a joke I read once in Reader's Digest. Mother Teresa dies and goes to heaven, where St. Peter instantly recognizes her and tells her that God has been waiting to see her. So she is ushered into the presence of God, who gestures to a table and says, "come and dine." He then proceeds to open a can of tuna and make tuna salad sandwiches. As she eats, Mother Teresa looks down beneath her feet and sees the damned of Hell eating lobster, t-bone steaks, etc. She thinks this a little odd but decides not to say anything. For the next several days this scene is repeated: God invites Mother Teresa to dine with him and makes tuna salad sandwiches, while beneath her feet she can see the damned feasting. Finaly, she summons up the courage and says, "God, I love being here with you, and I'm honored to be eating in your presence, so don't think I'm ungrateful, but I can't help but wonder: how come the damned are feasting on lobster and steak while we are eating tuna salad?" To which God replies, with a sigh, "Well, lets face it: what's the point in cooking for just two people?"
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