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01-18-2007, 10:13 PM
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| Claims Humans claim that God has answered their prayers on many occasions, but yet they do not want to provide proof to validate their own claims. Why not? Also what do you think of this Quote: |
Originally Posted by Virgil Cease to think that the decrees of the gods can be changed by prayers. |
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01-24-2007, 12:54 AM
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| I often hear a lot of Christians say that God answered their prayers. There proof is that what they wanted to happen...happened. It's circular logic.
I don't want to sound like an ass, but it bothers me when people say that EVERYTHING that happens to them is God interfering. I'm like, "How about it's a COINCIDENCE or YOU'RE LUCKY? Ever heard of that?" I never say this, but I always think "Why doesn't he ever do stuff for, I don't know, the STARVING PEOPLE IN POOR COUNTRIES or THE KID DYING OF CANCER??? He helped you find a parking space, but he couldn't help a poor kid find food for his/her family? And you worship this person?" Ugh. -_-
Sorry if I offended any Christians on here, but I don't think God interferes with human life. If he does, he sure seems to have a knack for helping people with very trivial problems... Of course, some Christians believe that God doesn't interfere with life. I like them a lot. ^_^ Quote:
Originally Posted by THEWAULRUS Humans claim that God has answered their prayers on many occasions, but yet they do not want to provide proof to validate their own claims. Why not? Also what do you think of this | |
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01-24-2007, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by THEWAULRUS Humans claim that God has answered their prayers on many occasions, but yet they do not want to provide proof to validate their own claims. Why not? Also what do you think of this | Because they are liars is probably the simplest answer I could thinkof at 12:24am
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01-24-2007, 08:04 AM
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| What kind of proof would you be looking for?
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01-24-2007, 02:33 PM
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| I would be looking for ACTUAL PROOF that some kind of benevolent deity provided aid and it wasn't just natural circumstances and luck that provided the good stuff that happened.
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01-24-2007, 02:44 PM
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| Such as for example a tape that would show gold appearing out of nowhere in a completely sealed room. Experiment date and so on. Or being cured from a disease that is killing you such as late stage of cancer. Cancer being completely gone that is.
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01-24-2007, 02:58 PM
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I would be looking for ACTUAL PROOF that some kind of benevolent deity provided aid and it wasn't just natural circumstances and luck that provided the good stuff that happened.
| Basically, I gather that what you would consider a proof is either a violation of the laws of physics, or the occurrence of something that is both EXTREMELY improbable and special (special : if you let a monkey type a page on a typewriter, then, in advance, every outcome is as improbable as the other, but getting a page from Shakespeare is special and getting bunch of incoherent words is not).
Is that what you mean? If it is then I am not aware of such a proof.
But, according to some religious people I heard on T.V , God can interfere in a less conspicuous way (but they didn't explain how...  ) |
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01-24-2007, 05:58 PM
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| Yes. I would like to see a photograph showing God standing next to someone helping them to find their lost car keys. Quote:
Originally Posted by redcliff Basically, I gather that what you would consider a proof is either a violation of the laws of physics, or the occurrence of something that is both EXTREMELY improbable and special (special : if you let a monkey type a page on a typewriter, then, in advance, every outcome is as improbable as the other, but getting a page from Shakespeare is special and getting bunch of incoherent words is not).
Is that what you mean? If it is then I am not aware of such a proof.
But, according to some religious people I heard on T.V , God can interfere in a less conspicuous way (but they didn't explain how...  ) | |
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01-25-2007, 11:06 AM
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| Religious minded people don't want to prove anything. The less evidence there is and the more they beleive it, the more "faith" they have. And the more faith you have in a religious community the better of a person you are. It's an all inclusive circular thought process that keeps people in complete denial about everything from their car keys to their ability to make up their freaking minds or say that they did something right all on their own. It certainly does some damage. So glad I'm done being christian!
By the way, MartheGod if you ever get that photo, we'd all like a copy.  |
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01-25-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MartheGod I often hear a lot of Christians say that God answered their prayers. There proof is that what they wanted to happen...happened. It's circular logic.
I don't want to sound like an ass, but it bothers me when people say that EVERYTHING that happens to them is God interfering. I'm like, "How about it's a COINCIDENCE or YOU'RE LUCKY? Ever heard of that?" I never say this, but I always think "Why doesn't he ever do stuff for, I don't know, the STARVING PEOPLE IN POOR COUNTRIES or THE KID DYING OF CANCER??? He helped you find a parking space, but he couldn't help a poor kid find food for his/her family? And you worship this person?" Ugh. -_-
Sorry if I offended any Christians on here, but I don't think God interferes with human life. If he does, he sure seems to have a knack for helping people with very trivial problems... Of course, some Christians believe that God doesn't interfere with life. I like them a lot. ^_^ |
i beleieve that he does, but not in any physical way. i beleive he does such things as inspire people or give people confidence/strength, but makes sure that what he does is inconpicous, so that people may beleive because of faith, not hard undoubtable proof.
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