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04-08-2008, 01:58 PM
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| what causes autistism
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04-08-2008, 02:09 PM
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| As I said, I'm not a scientist, nor a physican, but a little Google action provided this:
Causes of autism
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Autism and autism spectrum disorders are complex neurodevelopmental disorders. Many causes of autism have been proposed, but its theory of causation is still incomplete.[1] Heritability contributes about 90% of the risk of a child developing autism, but the genetics of autism are complex and typically it is unclear which genes are responsible.[2] In rare cases, autism is strongly associated with agents that cause birth defects.[3] Many other causes have been proposed, such as exposure of children to vaccines; these proposals are controversial and the vaccine hypotheses have no convincing scientific evidence.
You see, even if man does not know the exact cause, the experts know that there is a "cause". |
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04-08-2008, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Abel
You see, even if man does not know the exact cause, the experts know that there is a "cause". | So there was a cause of the big bang we just dont know what it was
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04-08-2008, 07:17 PM
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| was there ever a first cause? a cause uncaused?
or does the past go to infinity?
and also, how do/would we know.
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04-08-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by neverforever Quote:
Originally Posted by Abel
You see, even if man does not know the exact cause, the experts know that there is a "cause". | So there was a cause of the big bang we just dont know what it was | As an expert, I can say that we do not know that it is valid to state that the big bang had a cause. This is due to the nature of time as a property of matter. Again, I recommend following up on the theory of general relativity if you are at all interested.
The theory does break down as you get close to the big bang, but the approach seems to indicate time not having any meaning "before" the big bang.
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04-08-2008, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Og You're assuming an infinite timeline into the past. If time began at the big bang (there is strong evidentiary support for this) then how is it that a god could have "preceded" that and how would an infinite paradox of creation of the creator follow?
If time began at the big bang then how do you talk about an event "before" that? | I have always wondered about the phrase the big bang. Is there anything stopping it being one of many? I not just referring to the possible contraction of our observable universe... but other universes, say teralight years away.
There are precedents for this ... our worlds/universes tend to be egocentric.
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04-09-2008, 02:53 AM
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| I guess its just hard for me to think that there wasnt time. But if you think about your life the only time you can remember you have existed
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04-09-2008, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Og You're assuming an infinite timeline into the past. If time began at the big bang (there is strong evidentiary support for this) then how is it that a god could have "preceded" that and how would an infinite paradox of creation of the creator follow?
If time began at the big bang then how do you talk about an event "before" that? | I have always wondered about the phrase the big bang. Is there anything stopping it being one of many? I not just referring to the possible contraction of our observable universe... but other universes, say teralight years away.
There are precedents for this ... our worlds/universes tend to be egocentric. | Nah. Cosmic background radiation is visible and constant in ANY direction in space. Not in one direction back "over there" where we came from vs "over yonder" where other stuff is.
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04-09-2008, 11:26 AM
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| There's a theory out there now that says that events of the future have an effect on events of the past. Has to do with quantum waves or something.
Waiting for a reply from my friend on this, but the theory suggests that what caused the Big Bang happened after it had occured.
Will bring sources for this soon. I could be wrong on this too.
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04-09-2008, 11:40 AM
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| Mmm, nah, I still hold true to my Dark Matter theory in that God was infinite space that developed the universe from the infinite space, or the supporting theory of mine that it was merely a process of atoms bundled up together moving around until a certain point needed to create friction. |
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