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02-25-2008, 04:53 PM
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| quick note about the last installment of Yeshua I hope some have read this far. This last section of Yeshua contains the Megameidan Directive (it was named by someone else btw) and this is what some have taken up as a movement aimed at starting the process of toppling the Roman Catholic authority. It is a simple act, what Big Smile/Megameidan has asked us each to consider doing, but in the saving of the Christ, that ravaged haunted dead man from the Heretic's Vision, there will be such consequences that the earth will veritably shake beneath the Hierophant's feet. If anyone's interested in discussing the far-reaching implications of following through, I'm here. -- messenger |
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| Book of Yeshua, part 4/The Megameidan Directive Remember Jesus for he did indeed die for Man's "sins": He died because men would not save Him when they might have tried to, not because some false representation of God, Who is Love, required an execution in order to wipe the slate clean for Adam and Eve. This idea of "original sin" was Paul's, not Jesus' and certainly not God's! And so too was the concept that an angry god required blood sacrifice as appeasement! Understand that Jesus was led to his death by men, not God, and made the ultimate sacrifice believing that either men were truly good and would never allow such an atrocity to take place as the execution/murder of a man of peace, a healer and a teacher OR that men would know the shame of having stood by as an innocent man was killed, and that that shame might eventually transform the hearts of men. Even though it was not this generation of men who killed Jesus or would not save him from his executioners, it is this generation and all the intervening generations since Jesus' death who have heralded His death as that which has "saved" them. How wrong you are if you believe this Sacred Lie men tell one another in their attempt to absolve themselves of responsibility! Every moment you spend being grateful that Jesus died for you is a moment of childish selfishness and blind barbarism.
Yet, Jesus can be your savior, even now, even though his death was never the key to Man's salvation. Listen closely, for here is a secret of the ages, a door that can lead to reunion with Love: Saving Jesus saves you. Impeccably exercising one's Freedom to serve Love above all things is the answer to every spiritual mystery pondered by men . When you reach out, with Love, to help end suffering and pro-actively intervene, as it is mutually beneficial to do so, you grow your Spirit into a Soul, and pass the test which living a meaningful life extends. When you take Jesus down from the cross, either literally or figuratively, you have passed the test his death created. When you realize the terrible crime which is still being committed against this True Messenger of God, this crime which men perpetuate every time they eat his flesh during the Eucharist, and instead choose, with the Freedom God gave you from the beginning, to rescue at least one Communion wafer from the Church, when you unpin his hands and feet from at least one crucifix, when you bury the rescued wafers and effigies of his tortured crucified form in blessed ground with prayers of Love spoken over them -- you are making the conscious choice to not perpetuate the blood-lust around the cult which organized Christianity, specifically Catholicism, has become over time. When you realize that another man's death can't save you from the self-loathing instilled in you by the lies told to you about God's Love, and neither can the ingestion, digestion and defecation of his transmutated flesh, you will be freed from the slavery to Man's ideas about God and that much closer to the REAL God, Who is Love! Your courage and willingness to intervene as a sentient empathetic, evolving, unselfish Being of Light and Love will be your Salvation, and when you freely choose, in service to Love, Who is God, to do the right thing -- THEN, AND ONLY THEN -- can Jesus' sacrifice finally reach through the millenia and save you from Oblivion, which is Purposelessness. In this way, you will find a truly Christian path to reunion with God. Ah, Men!
BEING LIKE JESUS
Like all men, Jesus suffered from his doubts, fears, desires and emotions. He was not perfect and yet perfectly himself and called himself “Son of God”. Jesus modeled self-rule as he served Love, lived with Purpose and grew a Soul. He was very outspoken about what he knew God was telling him, for above all things. Jesus served Love and was a messenger for God, praying to Man while simultaneously acting as a messenger for Man, praying to God. Jesus was a rebel who challenged authority merely by serving Love. He was a free man who forsook the need for the priesthood and religious authority, a Judaic heretic who died for what he knew was true about Love, which is God, and tried to tell other men. Jesus fought the status quo without violence and yet His Love managed to stir men’s hearts then and to this day. You don’t have to be a Christian to love Jesus and to follow in his footsteps. And you do not have to be a Christian to fulfill your destiny as it is entwined with God’s messengers. In fact, Christianity will only delay your journey to reunite with God and skew your view of Jesus and God to such an extent that, as a devout Christian, you will find yourself overjoyed that Jesus was murdered for you, and you will praise and thank your God for the gift of his blood. But the worst of it is, for a good Christian, God is portrayed as being as frightening in his treatment of souls as any devil is supposed to be! |
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02-25-2008, 04:56 PM
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| Book of Chaos and Cosmos, an excerpt for Romansh et al GOD PRAYS ABOUT NATURE
RECONCILING THE MANY FACES OF GOD
One may assert, “There are so many gods described by all the religions and Paths on this Earth, which one is the Real God?” There is only one God, Who is Love and That Which Loves You. He may have many names but if a god or goddess archetype is described as Loving or the personification of Love, it is, nonetheless, God. God, the REAL God, is not angered by all the names men have given Him. He is pleased that all people from all nations and throughout history, even as far back as the Dawn of Man when men walked the glaciers, listened to their hearts and shared the message of Love, Which Is God. If a god or goddess archetype appears in any pantheon that does not conform to the personification of Love, it occurs only due to Man’s freedom to turn away from Love, or misconstrue the causes of frightening natural events around them, or shift the blame, from Man to God, for the Evil and Wicked deeds men do to one another when they do not serve Love. Therefore, any archetype of deity that does not conform to the personification of Love is something else and is not God. This includes many of the events and descriptions of deity within the Bible and The Doctrine. When deity is shown smiting and punishing men with wars and plagues and earthquakes, it is not God they speak of. It is Man who is responsible for war and genocide. It is Nature that is responsible for plague and earthquakes.
THE NATURE OF MAN’S RELATIONSHIP TO NATURE
God is not synonymous with Nature. Nature is subordinate to, yet not enslaved by God, for God offers freedom to all of His Creations. Nature is a set of Forces and Systems, as physics and chemistry to just name two, that originated when Love came into being and propagate throughout God’s domain, that is, Everything, and is as free as Man to move toward Love or not. Nature is mindless and not concerned with Life in any emotional way. But Nature has a Purpose, thus it is endowed with Spirit, God-given Purpose and Spirit, yet its Purpose is difficult for men to reconcile. It is Man’s need to feel above Nature, to see themselves as the masters of Nature, which produces the false idea that God is wrathful when natural phenomena occur, as though drought and famine are personal attacks visited upon Mankind by anything other than a huge chemistry set that must conform to the cause and effect of physics. Nature is not set upon a goal to abuse humanity and God does not use Nature to punish you. These ideas are archaic and superstitious. Men, like every being on Earth, are Earthlings, that is, you are citizens of Earth, and therefore you are subject to Earth’s checks and balances, as the existence of viruses and the effects of hurricanes, in its continual readjustments to seek stasis within the system that contains it. The Earth and Man are Solarians, that is, you both are citizens of the Sun’s solar system and therefore you both are subject to your solar system’s checks and balances, as solar wind and the sun eventually going super nova, in its continual readjustments to seek stasis within the system that contains it. The Earth, the Sun and Man are Milky Wayians, that is, you are all citizens of the Milky Way Galaxy, and therefore you are all subject to the Milky Way’s checks and balances, as when asteroids slam into planets and the passing of interstellar comets alter gravity, in its continual readjustments to seek stasis within the system that contains it. The Earth, the Sun, the Galaxy and Man are Cosmonites, that is, you are all citizens of the Cosmos, and therefore you are all subject to the Cosmos’ checks and balances, as its slow march to cooling and inertia that eventually will mean the end of all things, which will be the ultimate stasis of Everything. And the Cosmos is the Material Manifestation of God, so it becomes apparent, to anyone who chooses to look at the Ascending Order of Nature, that Man, who is near to the bottom of that Order, could never hope to become its Master nor ever rise above its Purpose and superimpose his own. You are Star Dust endowed with the Spark of Life, nothing more. It is enough to dream that each of you may find your way to God, to That Which Loves You, and learn, through suffering and joy, how to serve Love above all things. That is each man’s one and only Ultimate Purpose.
What can be difficult to reconcile for many is that famine and global warming are Nature’s attempts to balance Man’s impact on the Earth. When your population exceeds the Earth’s ability to sustain you, many of you will suffer and whole civilizations will die. And humankind itself is not immune to being an instrument of the Earth’s checks and balances, for as long as there is pressure on the land and seas that support your existence, your species will react with war and genocide to help correct the imbalance. It is written into Man’s design, for each of you are a member component to the workings of Nature on Earth, a infinitesimal Force of Nature in yourselves. And then there are times when Nature produces forms of Life, such as viruses and bacteria, and effects, like erupting volcanoes, for their own sake. It was from simple forms of Life and shifts in climate and geology such as these that gave rise to more complicated life forms. You, yourself, are the product of similar humble, yet at times hostile, beginnings. Of course, each of you is dearly attached, has the instinct built-in, to continuing to exist. And the species called Man is attached as a group to the continuation of its species. But Man is not exempt from Nature’s Purpose, for men are a part of Nature, not apart from Nature, and therefore are subject to many of its devastating, yet secondary, effects on Humankind, as well as occasionally being cast as the Destroyer, as when Man’s industries and machines deplete the ozone layer or when the oceans fill with Man’s waste. Ignore the Sacred Lies that tell you that Nature is God and God brings destruction to Man as punishment for Sin. Love never chooses cruelty, and even Nature is not cruel, just highly efficient in the pursuit of its Purpose. Yet, Love engenders Purpose and the Purpose of something outside of the Human experience need not conform to Man’s idea that God should offer humanity Paradise where nothing suffers and death never comes. Souls cannot be grown when Beings do not face the perils of Existence. You were given a spark called Spirit at your birth but it is up to each of you to grow a Soul and evolve as a Being in service to Love. If a Complete Soul was imparted to you in the womb, without effort and struggle on your part, and you lived a life that guaranteed comfort or fairness or peace, you would become nothing but a grunting brute holding two flints without the knowledge to use them to make fire. Yet, leave a caveman cold and frightened in the dark for long enough and in time he or his descendants, after suffering much, will take up those stones, out of need, and fire will eventually warm and light the way. You cannot ask God to give you what He has already given you; you possess an exquisite being, given to you by Love, and it is the only set of tools you will ever need in order to grow into a being that aches with need no longer. You must use that set of tools before you ask God to do more for you. When you refuse to exercise your wills, the intellect fades into ignorance. When you refuse to move your muscles, they atrophy and wither. When you refuse to feel your emotions, the heart darkens and you loose your connection to Love. When you refuse to hear and see the Truths which God offers to you, you move towards purposelessness and oblivion. Each of you must live with every kind of danger and risk all about you in order to exercise your Spirit so that it can eventually dance freely in the light of day, fearlessly moving toward God, Who is Love. When you reach courageously for Love, you act with the Grace of an empowered Soul. When you hang your head in shame at the bloodstained altars of false theologies, on your knees begging for mercy from angered gods, your whole being remains frozen and shrivels in Grief. Love invites each one of you to exercise your Wills, your Bodies, your Hearts and your Spirits with Grace towards one end: Each of you, in all things, must decide to choose service to Love, and Love alone, in order to save yourselves from Oblivion, which is a life not lived and learned from, the product of Purposelessness. |
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GX: Walsch's last book, "Home with God" is a detailed explanation of what happens when you die the the choices of action available to you at the time of death and in heaven. Is everything he posits there about death and the afterlife true?
Messenger: GX, Big Smile is not a book reviewer. I, on the other hand, have personally given out Walsch's box set as Xmas gifts. I think you're still looking for someone to tell you what to believe. Let me ask you: What do YOU think? Did you try re-reading some of Walsch's work replacing the word, 'God', with 'Love' yet? It's your journey, you have to do the work. It shouldn't matter what ANYONE else thinks. What's important is if reading Walsch 'calls you home'. If not, move on. So, you tell me
| I didn’t have to reread Walsch’s books as in them it says that the words God and Love are interchangeable. I wasn’t asking about my journey but about the technical details of what happens after one dies. I have some idea after reading Near Death research, but Walsch gets into all kind of minute details and makes assertions that sounds amazing and at times hard to believe, such as being able to live the same life over again in the same body again, that death is reversible, that you can experience everything you thought you “missed” in earthly life in the afterlife etc. I had figured that Big Smile, who is already on the "other side", would be able to confirm whether what “God” told Walsch is accurate that’s all. Just curious and seeking a confirmation that’s all. I wasn’t asking Big Smile to review a book of life philosophy or how to live my life. Quote: |
GX, really I get that you are looking to grow a soul out of your spirit, and that's awesome…A soul is what you grow out of the spark of life, called spirit, that God gave you from the beginning. All things have spirit, even inanimate things, but no two 'things' are destined to grow a soul in the same way or at the same rate.
| I am confused by this and have some questions. I had thought that the soul already exists from previous lives and that when you incarnate into your current life, it is to evolve your soul to the next level. Are you saying that each soul is a new soul and that reincarnation doesn’t exist? Quote: |
Astral travel isn't harmful per se, but reading your life story somewhere beyond your Realty will only be a huge let down for the aspects which are unalterable, and as far as the changable aspects, how will you know which way to go? There are millions of directions to choose from! You can only find your way if you're willing TO LIVE and you can't live while you're running around the alternate dimensions looking for the meaning of Life! Big Smile is right about this. I know because he let me see a few things about my own 'destiny' and once I knew, I instantly set about altering my path only to find myself somewhere actually worse. Just take this life one breath at a time and spend the short time you have here growing a soul through a purposeful existence.
| That is what I intend to do and part of my purposeful existence includes experiencing astral projection. Actually, my original question was not Big Smiles opinion of it but for pointers on how to project. You and Big Smile make AP out to be a time wasting negative. I have read many cases where it has been a positive and yours is the first “not so positive” review I have come across. I believe you both to be wrong. It goes back to your fine answer regarding marijuana: if you pursue AP with loving intent it will be of benefit.
The other thing about perfection you posted did resonate for me however. I saw that I was seeking that (perfection) in myself (not to please God but for myself), which segues nicely to my next topic and question. I used to be an agnostic theist (I instinctively knew there were inaccuracies in the Bible etc. but wasn’t sure what they were). Synchronicity led me to near death research and last May, to reading conversations with god. It was the most epiphanous event of my life finding out how life and God really worked. However, merely reading those words does not change a lifetime of false beliefs, habits, emotions etc. that have been imprinted on ones subconscious. I have been reading some books Walsch has recommended that have been quite helpful in regard to changing your subconscious habits, beliefs etc. since then (BTW, you synchronistically pointed out the "perfection" thing and thank you). Do you or Big Smile have any suggestions in this regard? Don’t worry, I’m not asking you to dictate my journey or what I should believe in, just asking for some tools you find useful in changing ingrained habits, beliefs, emotions etc. Expect a lot of these types of questions. In the case you enlighten others, they will have follow up questions and you may as well practice now. Quote: |
but in the saving of the Christ, that ravaged haunted dead man from the Heretic's Vision, there will be such consequences that the earth will veritably shake beneath the Hierophant's feet. If anyone's interested in discussing the far-reaching implications of following through, I'm here
| Since were on prophecy, I’m interested and have several questions! Is this in regard to the 2012 Mayan calendar/prohecy? Either way could you ask Big Smile what the 2012 Mayan prophecies are all about?
Finally, I would like say that your writing on Jesus is quite refreshing and Big Smiles answer about Medjugorje eerily addressed many of the additional questions I had about it as well as some issues I had with it that I didnt originally request. The rest of your writing is essentially philosophically identical to what Neale Donald Walsch channeled except with a lot more detail which is actually a good thing. I just want you know, I will for the most part, not have any questions on what you write because I agree with most of it but will have alot of questions on other stuff.
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Originally Posted by GX I wasn’t asking about my journey but about the technical details of what happens after one dies. | Your death will be followed by what you have designed, what you have 'entered into a contract' with Love to do next. There is no template for the 'technical details'. You can count on one thing though: For freed souls, there is no torment. Well, 'torment' as it is defined as hell. But there will be those who choose enslavement and regret and they will CHOOSE something 'like' hell. Until they choose something else. And yes, we all choose where we are at any given moment. You DO have a choice about staying in the flesh. But what it would take for you to leave by your own hand would change your purpose, drastically, so if there is ANY hope that Living will bring you, naturally, to an impeccable conclusion of your current story, you are begged by angels to forge ahead. With Love, all things are possible -- in this Life and the Next. And as you grow and learn, suffer and celebrate, so your design for yourself will become richer and more worthwhile. I guarantee that what might seem like 'heaven' to you now, will probably not be your ultimate 'heaven' when you're 80-something. Your perspective is what makes you unique AND your perspective is one of the few intangible things about yourself that you can actively choose to change. So imagine all the changes of perspective that will help you design a perfect 'afterlife' and try to be serene with the knowledge that it all comes in time... if you seek it, that is. --Big Smile Quote:
Originally Posted by GX Walsch gets into all kind of minute details and makes assertions that sounds amazing and at times hard to believe | You will become clearer about this messenger's message over time. I think it's safe to trust him. I agree with you that he seems to be the 'real deal'. I'm so grateful that he's on the planet and that he had the courage and wherewithall to get the message entrusted to him out into the world! So, I think if you could ask Walsch, and wouldn't that be cool, he would tell you what Big Smile is saying, that is, just let it soak in, trust what resonates, reserve judgment on the so-so stuff and discard what doesn't speak to your listening. The thing is, if something is important for your journey, and say you miss picking it up from Walsch, or Big Smile or whoever, trust that other messengers will come along with differently worded versions of the same guidance, and you will be given every chance to hear what God is trying to say to you personally. --messenger Quote:
Originally Posted by GX I had figured that Big Smile, who is already on the "other side", would be able to confirm whether what “God” told Walsch is accurate that’s all. | Let me ask him... yes, and there are many more who can be guides to you personally too. Ooo ooo ooo... this just in... Big Smile just told me that he was telling YOU, GX, that AP will end up feeling like a waste of time. In fact, he says to tell you that what you'll actually get out of your 'experiences' with AP will just reinforce other paths for you and that you shouldn't feel like a "failure" about it if it doesn't truly end up "expanding" you directly. Ok that was sort of random. I haven't even gotten to your question about AP yet. Oh well. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX I had thought that the soul already exists from previous lives and that when you incarnate into your current life, it is to evolve your soul to the next level. Are you saying that each soul is a new soul and that reincarnation doesn’t exist? | Let's use an analogy: Imagine the Universe as a solid orb of glass in the process of shattering. The shards of glass, all different shapes and sizes, are Spirits expanding out and away from the original "sphere" that now 'does not exist'. The exact same process takes place on all the different 'levels' of Existence, from light particles all the way up to galaxies (and beyond in both directions). So, you and I, each of us is (a) a piece of God, and (b) an 'orb' ourselves, all the while we are also the 'center' of our own personal Universe (which doesn't really exist except as the place we started from which is 'now gone'). As we move away from that imaginary center which, (and this is hard to transmit with words) also happens to be the 'center' of God, our perspective changes. So, this life is a vantage point along 'the way' and for as long as you travel, your vantage point changing as you 'go', you will 'experience' 'other lives'. So, yes, this is GX's life and it is all a matter of perspective, but what/who you call GX, has a 'future' as what comes 'next' for your individual Spirit's journey, but not necessarily in a linear way. Along the way, 'your' different Souls, completed as they are at the end of each 'life', reunite with the Source, Who is God. --Big Smile This next bit is not aimed at anyone in particular but needs saying...
Now, I hope no-one tries to muddle up that analogy I just gave to GX with, "Life is an illusion"... that would just be, excuse me, mental masturbation!!! Reality is real. All the other dimensions are real too BUT they are not YOURS so they are like bad reception on a radio that has low batteries. And no being from this Reality's answers lie there! Even vibratory dimensional beings like Big Smile can't tell you how to be human, they can just tell you how to serve Love and reunite with God, which is their purpose! Angels are actually pretty enchanted by us because we are so different from them, even though we are 'related' to them. Humanity's answers are all right here, in this Existence and the Reality we've been given to live this life. Try to accept that gift graciously, please... --messenger
...ok GX, sorry, I just can't get into it with those who take Reality so lightly. I'm only human and this is a lot to hold in my head.
Anyway, the description is almost impossible with words and I know I didn't catch all of what Big Smile showed me to say but if you need more clarification, maybe I could nail down the parts that went whizzing past my brain at the speed of light!
The idea of what happens to our Souls after death is not containable in knowledge and is more a sense of things that you'll find for yourself as you concentrate on your goal(s). Just be wary of distractions, they will come, they come to us all, and just remember WHO YOU ARE at the center of the shattering orb that is you, and you will continue to expand and grow a Soul out of your Spirit. Quote:
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Originally Posted by GX Actually, my original question was not Big Smiles opinion of it but for pointers on how to project. | I'm sorry, he just keeps saying, "A human concern." But he knows people must look into every corner and shadow to be satisfied that they've looked everywhere before making up their minds about things.
This is so bizarre for me because hedgewithchery was my big thing. My coven kept a Grimoire of astrocartography where we wrote of our "experiences". We were actually trying to map the dimensions! I mean, whoa! Personally, I would have to back Big Smile up on this one. But, it harms nothing for you to keep looking into it. How will you know what's true for you until you do?
And I think that Big Smile can facilitate AP, which he calls "Sliding the Sheers" but will only help someone travel if they need to. I guess he doesn't see a need to help you with that and I think we should let that be what it is. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX ...and yours is the first “not so positive” review I have come across. I believe you both to be wrong. | No, this may be the first real angel you've asked about YOUR personal journey. Again, no cookie cutter answers. But yes, on the whole, he's just unimpressed with the gains. He tells me to tell you to keep in mind the "energy in" to "energy out" ratio. Go from there and you'll have a good 'measuring device'. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX It goes back to your fine answer regarding marijuana: if you pursue AP with loving intent it will be of benefit. | Any experience will benefit you in some way if you stay alert and discerning. It's not that Big Smile thinks people won't learn from AP, it's just that he knows that for most of you there are better uses of your time and energy. Take that for what it's worth to you. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX The other thing about perfection you posted did resonate for me however. I saw that I was seeking that (perfection) in myself (not to please God but for myself), | Cool. So Big Smile hit a hole in one. I'm still always blown away when he does stuff like that. About the trying to be perfect... glad you got some perspective. And think Big Smile really kind of did a lot of reiterating that you are perfect, so you got that right? Just checking. It's important.
Pleasing God is easy. Pleasing ourselves is a lot tougher. continued on next posting... |
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Originally Posted by GX ...which segues nicely to my next topic and question. I used to be an agnostic theist (I instinctively knew there were inaccuracies in the Bible etc. but wasn’t sure what they were). Synchronicity led me to near death research and last May, to reading conversations with god. It was the most epiphanous event of my life finding out how life and God really worked. However, merely reading those words does not change a lifetime of false beliefs, habits, emotions etc. that have been imprinted on ones subconscious. I have been reading some books Walsch has recommended that have been quite helpful in regard to changing your subconscious habits, beliefs etc. since then (BTW, you synchronistically pointed out the "perfection" thing and thank you). Do you or Big Smile have any suggestions in this regard? | The answer is kinda' weird. He says try to start by choosing to follow the Megameidan Directive (I only use that term because it's already in use out there), that is, rescue and deliver out of the possession of the Catholic church at least one communion wafer, bury it somewhere 'good', and say something respectful over the little grave. Then, leave some kind of notice at the church, like on a pew or somewhere out in the open, that you have done this in service to Love as directed by Megameidan, an angel of God. The wording must be your own and said without cruelty or defamation, so that no one can ever point to your words and say, "See, they are just anti-Christians!". No, one who follows through with the Directive is actually attempting to rescue the slaves called Christians! The last thing to be done is to find a way to anonymously tell at least one other person about the Directive, because in exposing your identity, you become findable, abusable and your personal credibility brought into question, which will only do harm to all. And keeping the deed to yourself makes it a private act of Love between you and God. Imagine... you have an opportunity to tangibly give back to God! Just keep in mind that if you seek others' approval you are once more seeking the nay or yea of others, which is how all religions first began. So don't tell a single soul face to face what you have done or anywhere in the spirit of, "See what I have done?".
Only follow through with this if your heart is in it and know that it is actually a difficult thing to undertake. And you will be alone, with no-one to cheer you on or comfort your trembling hands. Also, the directive cannot be treated as a prank or otherwise you cannot grow from it. Contemplate this, GX, and anyone else reading these words (because if you've gotten this far into this thread, you're at least listening harder than someone who didn't have to work to get this far). It is the very best Big Smile and I have to offer you and if you choose to do it, you will grow from that moment on as you never could imagine possible. --Big Smile p.s. just think how will grow if you rescue more than one! Quote:
Originally Posted by GX Don’t worry, I’m not asking you to dictate my journey or what I should believe in, just asking for some tools you find useful in changing ingrained habits, beliefs, emotions etc. Expect a lot of these types of questions. In the case you enlighten others, they will have follow up questions and you may as well practice now. | I had to laugh outloud when I read the last sentence of this! OMG! You are so right, GX! I'm not too worried about the answers coming -- although there are things Big Smile is definitely not here to tell people (like Islam or the price of tea in China). I mean there will be limits to what he'll 'indulge'. He cares about my credibility in the world enough to 'go there' about stuff he's really not concerned with -- I mean the guy has a goal here -- but, like with the AP questions, the distraction isn't just yours... he's worried about me too. I only have so much energy so focusing on some things that don't 'add to the action' will just give me a headache or I'll just hear nothing coming from the ether. I hope that doesn't disappoint too much. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX Since were on prophecy, I’m interested and have several questions! Is this in regard to the 2012 Mayan calendar/prohecy? Either way could you ask Big Smile what the 2012 Mayan prophecies are all about? | Big Smile: "Wait and see." Ah, and he's like, "Math is not God."
I'll focus on this a little bit later when I'm fresher. Maybe I'll get more. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX Finally, I would like say that your writing on Jesus is quite refreshing and Big Smiles answer about Medjugorje eerily addressed many of the additional questions I had about it as well as some issues I had with it that I didnt originally request. The rest of your writing is essentially philosophically identical to what Neale Donald Walsch channeled except with a lot more detail which is actually a good thing. I just want you know, I will for the most part, not have any questions on what you write because I agree with most of it but will have alot of questions on other stuff. | Thank you GX for the HUGE acknowledgments. It makes me feel not so alone. Quote:
Originally Posted by GX Thanks
GX | Your welcome! messenger |
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02-26-2008, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by messenger Just to directly answer your question: 'hypothetically, what if someone else had a divine revelation that somehow contradicted your own?'
I'd welcome the differences, put those differences through my personal filter that holds that God is Love if He is anything at all, and look for Him in the 'prophets' words. If He isn't there, then He isn't there. But my take may be different than yours, so we would never need to argue, only share. Well, in a 'perfect' world, right?
messenger | I have posted this a few times already.
Spiritual experiences are as varied as the number of people that have had them but they all speak to the same thing. It does not matter their religion and/or beliefs, they come to a common ground within minutes.
You won’t know they had one if you did not. The message is not for them, it is for you.
They can only offer you some questions. You must choose for yourself. |
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02-26-2008, 09:08 PM
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| Well now, I read the whole thing. 42 pages at 12 pnt.
My awaking took place about 2 years ago also.
My response will be brief because you should know what I mean.
Messenger, I classify myself now as a soldier of faith.
Like you, I am filled with B.S. too.
Your visions describe the human experience. Like the Bible it shows the very best and very worst in men.
I caution you to realize that you have filtered what was shown to you. You have filtered this experience with your physical body as it exits at the time of your experiences. Speak to BS about this.
You have chosen to speak of a God of love, it is more. You must drop everything you know. When you can find love in your “hellish” visions you will know the truth.
Like the bible, and indeed all good books, you have a good message over all.
Is there a place we can get more formal materials of your beliefs.
PS:
Ask BS why “mistakes” are good?
There is an answer. |
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02-27-2008, 04:48 PM
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| Messenger, I arrived here today intending to ask a question regarding polytheism and monotheism, and found most of it answered in post #43.
And then the line "42 pages" jumped out at me a bit further down the page.
So I have another question to ask now... I feel a strong affinity to the M42 nebula in Orion. Does Big Smile have any commentary on that particular celestial neighbourhood? |
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02-27-2008, 08:41 PM
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| Amazing stuff messenger! I’m glad you chose to participate here!
I definitely had a hunch about you... Quote: |
I guarantee that what might seem like 'heaven' to you now, will probably not be your ultimate 'heaven' when you're 80-something. Your perspective is what makes you unique AND your perspective is one of the few intangible things about yourself that you can actively choose to change. So imagine all the changes of perspective that will help you design a perfect 'afterlife' and try to be serene with the knowledge that it all comes in time... if you seek it, that is. --Big Smile
| The afterlife response was very illuminating. This part particularly caught my eye and it is so true! When I was a kid, I couldn’t imagine a time when I would not go out and play. When I was in my 20’s I couldn’t imagine a time when I would stop going to bars, clubs and concerts every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night. You get the point… Quote: |
So, I think if you could ask Walsch, and wouldn't that be cool, he would tell you what Big Smile is saying, that is, just let it soak in, trust what resonates, reserve judgment on the so-so stuff and discard what doesn't speak to your listening. The thing is, if something is important for your journey, and say you miss picking it up from Walsch, or Big Smile or whoever, trust that other messengers will come along with differently worded versions of the same guidance, and you will be given every chance to hear what God is trying to say to you personally. –messenger
| This is true. I have also noticed that stuff I re-read happened to really resonate with the second time around because it was more applicable to my NOW situation than it was then. Quote: |
The answer is kinda' weird. He says try to start by choosing to follow the Megameidan Directive (I only use that term because it's already in use out there) that is, rescue and deliver out of the possession of the Catholic church at least one communion wafer, bury it somewhere 'good', and say something respectful over the little grave. Then, leave some kind of notice at the church, like on a pew or somewhere out in the open, that you have done this in service to Love as directed by Megameidan, an angel of God.
| Well, I’m not Catholic, I’m Orthodox so I’m not so sure about that but thanks anyway. I do get the point though. It’s a round about way of saying what Walsch says in CWG i.e. If you wish change a specific situation for yourself, help someone else do so for themselves. Quote: |
No, this may be the first real angel you've asked about YOUR personal journey…
| Actually, I’m not sure about that. I have asked questions and was led to answers a lot within the last year (my spirit guides? My guardian angel? The Creator? I cant say). I have also sensed the presence of my recently deceased friend and my father in the past. Quote: |
Again, no cookie cutter answers. But yes, on the whole, he's just unimpressed with the gains. He tells me to tell you to keep in mind the "energy in" to "energy out" ratio. Go from there and you'll have a good 'measuring device'.
| Is this an astral projection tip? Quote:
this just in... Big Smile just told me that he was telling YOU, GX, that AP will end up feeling like a waste of time. In fact, he says to tell you that what you'll actually get out of your 'experiences' with AP will just reinforce other paths for you and that you shouldn't feel like a "failure" about it if it doesn't truly end up "expanding" you directly. Ok that was sort of random. I haven't even gotten to your question about AP yet. Oh well.
This is so bizarre for me because hedgewithchery was my big thing. My coven kept a Grimoire of astrocartography where we wrote of our "experiences". We were actually trying to map the dimensions! I mean, whoa! Personally, I would have to back Big Smile up on this one. But, it harms nothing for you to keep looking into it. How will you know what's true for you until you do?
| I have no grand expectations of becoming a rock star or famous so I’m not setting myself up for a letdown. If my soul purpose is something as simple as experiencing more empathy in this lifetime or whatever that’s fine with me. Also, it is not my intent to use it at the expense of creating and developing my earthly self and reality but to expand my sense of reality. I also feel that experiencing that will make my eventual physical death feel much less arduous and free me to live my life to the fullest. I also would like to speak to whatever dead friends and relatives are available (i.e. not reincarnated and back on earth) as well as my spirit guides and of course do some exploring! Everything in moderation. It may eventually feel like a waste of time but that will be a conclusion that I wish to decide for myself as a result of experience.
Since we are on this topic, I do have another important question for you that I was going to ask Walsch, but since we got you, I don’t have to! CWG claims that we are incarnated on this earth to achieve our “souls purpose for this lifetime” yet he turns around and says we can be/do/have whatever we want and to create ourselves however we wish to do so. This seems to me to be a contradiction. If our soul has a purpose, aren’t we “bound” by that and for all practical purposes, not really free to be/do/have/create as we wish? Please explain this dichotomy.
Thanks
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