MJ "revoltingpawn"

Does God Have a Future? (Part 9)…Defending Creationism

Still looking for more feed back from the Agnostic Forums community... Feel free to also comment directly to the blog on any of the posts in the series.

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MJ "revoltingpawn"

Does God Have a Future? (Part 10)…Conclusions

Well finally at the end of the journey on this question... Hope to get some more feedback and discussion on the series.

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AB517

Humans are spiritual beings so God does have a future. What flag the religion flies under in unimportant. I was a non believer (I was not atheist … I am not, nor was I ever like them) and I had a spiritual event.

Many people have tapped into it. They are the ones that talk of a universal thingie.

I thought as a non believer and still think it now. Man is responsible for his own destiny. People that blame God for good or bad just do not understand the workings of this thing. People that think he doesn’t care also do not understand.

Man is responsible for the happenings on this planet. The exact same evil would have taken place if there were no religions because there are still men. The goodness of men is also plainly evident. For every bad thing you blame on a religion I can name two good things. I would be able to do the same with or without a religion because it starts with us, all of us. Atheist need to blame God. I don’t know why they do not understand that it is not religion, it is man.

It is you and me

MJ "revoltingpawn"

AB157...

First thing is don't confuse God with religion. You are correct in men is to blame for evil but you need to understand that religion is man made. When a group of men try to tell you they know the will of God and follow them that is a religion. Religion is just a way for some men to control other men so I see little use for it.. While men is to blame also look at the tools they use.

You said... "Atheist need to blame God". Huh? What? Atheists can't blame God since don't believe in him.

Men need to stop turning for God for help and make things better ourselves. We need to make faith more personal and stop opposing it on others and wasting our energy associated with that. Maybe then things will get better...

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romansh

MJ ...... I think "just" is a unnecessarily limiting word. I agree religion has and can be used for control..... but the 'only' purpose?
I tend to agree in part with Joseph Campbell's interpretation of myth (and therefore religion) and its purpose....assp

a awe ..... help develop a sense of awe mystery regarding the universe, I think we all have this to some greater or lesser degree.

s science.... provide an explanation of the universe and how it works. Obviously painfully inadequate and for the large part wrong at least in the literal sense.

s society ..... provide a framework for society's rules. This is where I think the control aspect of religion might/can come in.

p psyche .... provide an insight in to the nature of human kind and perhaps the philosophy of our existence.

But your sentence is correct otherwise - for some people religion is a method of control, as is sex, bribery, Glock, flattery, ....... but these cannot be be prefixed just by just???

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AB517

God is just a word I used. You used it so I just followed you. Spirituality is above religion, you are correct there.

Atheist do blame God.
The “we can’t blame something we don’t believe in” is a nice and easy cop out. They blame religion, god, or whatever, and anything and clearly do not understand that it is man. To me, an Atheist is a fundamentalist non-believer. They are a hateful bunch and as dangerous as any religious fundie.

Men need to be focused on something bigger themselves. God, country, humanity, or even mother earth, men need something. We are a self serving lot if not focused on a goal that is bigger than “me” tend to be selfish.

Good stuff tho, thank you.

AB517

I agree with ya rom.

It is not religion, well will they understand.
Men kill men. Actually if the people followed their religion the killing would stop.