viz

Very good point.

I am a pure agnostic. I believe there is no evidence to proove or disprove god. That is as far as I go with my opinion on 'God' because I believe it is pointless to carry it any further, when it is impossible for humans to know anymore.

As for people "knowing" god exists, they are quite simply "sheep" but who can blame them. From birth they are bombarded with their parents and communities beliefs. Tell a child anything and they will believe it after a while.

bobleplask

But that's just it.

They don't "know" God exist, they believe it.

You don't know that it is impossible for humans to know if God exist or not. You believe it.

marmalade

That captures my view perfectly. I don't claim to know or not to know God, nor do I claim to know that God can or can't be known. This is where I fit more into weak atheism. I mostly take words like 'God' as being interpretive theories. I do have experiences that I could choose to interpret as knowing God, but I prefer to humbly leave it open-ended and leave myself open to new experiences.

When I do use the word 'God' to refer to my experiences I use it very loosely in the sense of it not having any specific theological or metapysical meaning. It simply refers to that which is beyond my ignorance and maybe beyond human ken in general.

AB517

some sheep, it would seem, don't need no dog.

LOGOS

There is no way of knowing "GOD" because it is claimed he is infinite, if infinite is know then it is no longer infnite.

God cnnot be present in our reality because then it would make him matter, and as we know matter dies.

Other than that, he exists only in your imagination and even there it is hard for anyone to explain him because things can only be rbought into reality with practical, physical experience.

I believe in force. Although the force is one, it is chaos, thus making it many ( polytheism).

Oh for you starwars freaks no not that force...sorry.

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Glacier_Eyes

How can you know that I exist? ( that i am not just the product of a spambot?)

LOGOS

Simple, in reality we have primary senses, so even if i am inside a virtual reality within a virtual reality and so on...i still trust my nous, my senses.

same goes for subconscious, i still have vision. The important thing is the experience.

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One must not follow what is common; but, even though the Logos is common, most people live as though they possessed their own understanding of it. The common is what is open to all, what can be seen and heard by all. To see is to let in with open eyes what is open to view, i.e. what is lit up and revealed to all.

bobleplask

We just decide to trust our senses, there is nothing really that makes them more believable than anything else. They are all connected to your brain which is run by the mind and there we make all these decisions.

If something can be doubted, it can't be trusted as absolute truth. But we have to set the limit somewhere, so something that is almost with us all the time is a good place to start. Senses therefor gives us a good idea of what might be true. It does not however prove that you exist.

ThomasHenry

I have just finished conducting a survey as to whether god does or does not exist. My conclusion is that there is an 87 percent probability that god does indeed exist.

In my survey, 87 percent of the people polled said "yes", god does exist.

And 10 percent said "no", god does not exist.

The other 3 percent said that they do much give a damn whether or not god exists.

It was a very scientific survey with an error margin of plus or minus 5 percent.

So now we can all just drop this issue and go on to other things.I am quite pleased with myself for having resolved something that people have pondered over for centuries.

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LOGOS

even if this is reality or not senses make the judgement...so if it is or isnt real has no purpose, its juts is because the brain is projecting it that way...so yes...sense is reality. Common sense realy.....no pun intented

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One must not follow what is common; but, even though the Logos is common, most people live as though they possessed their own understanding of it. The common is what is open to all, what can be seen and heard by all. To see is to let in with open eyes what is open to view, i.e. what is lit up and revealed to all.