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Old 08-08-2007, 02:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This was brought up in another forum I participate in and all the Christians were battling everyone else over God and his All-Loving Ways.

This is Julianna Wetmore, she is 3 years old and has Treacher Collins Syndrome:



After surgery

This was her when she was born:



When she was 2 years old:



If there is a Religious God out there and we were Born from the Allmighty's All-Loving breast well... the pictures say it all. This child will never have a chance to live a normal life.

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Old 08-09-2007, 10:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Why make it sound like somethings "wrong" with her? She has complications but that doesnt mean God isnt loving.. I saw her on tv, the biggest thing wrong with her is her face.
Somthing went wrong in the mothers womb and why do you blame God?
Shes here she isnt dying because her face isnt normal. Sure she'll face obsticles and such but that will make her a strong person in the end.
She can see and she can eat with a feeding tube. She isnt starving to death.
She gets her nutrition from what goes in the feeding tube, you get yours from what goes in your mouth. She just gets hers in a different way.
She has to face harder things, but why say its so bad? Why say just because shes not like us God doesnt love. This girl will hopefully find something that some 'normal' people never get to see or even wanna see.
See people for their hearts. For who they are.And thats something the people around her will learn to. God has a plan for her just as well as everyone else. I'm sure Julianna has touched and will touch many lives.
Dwarfs have to face some things like this to. People staring and surgeries.
That doesn't mean God doesnt love them. The only thing different between everyone else and dwarfs is dwarfs are short. Thats it. They do face more health issues but dwarfs are just short people with a medical name so docs know what differences are in their bodies to tall people's bodies.
Kids that are born with out legs or with too many toes the only thing different is they have to many or too little. That doesnt mean God doesnt love them, just they will do things differently than everyone else.
Saying that just because someone isnt "normal" God doesnt love them or love anyone is wrong. He loves you, he loves Julianna, he loves black people, white people, mexican people, asian people, and any other race there is.
He loves people with legs without legs, people who are blind people who can see, people who can talk ,people who cant, people cant hear people who cant, people with cases like Julianna's.
Julianna is a beautiful girl, not because of the way she looks, but because of who she is.


http://www.julianawetmore.net/pictures.php?id=69
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Old 08-09-2007, 12:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This really is proof that if God did exist, it doesn't exist in the christian interpretation.
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Explain...What do you believe is the christian interpretation and why it couldnt be the christian interpretation?
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Hey this little girl is lovely and beautiful in my eyes. She a lovely innocent little person. She has not known life in any way so i guess she doesnt know why she is 'different'. Cant you see this is a test for the rest of us to appreciate what God has given us? So maybe someone who thought their nose was a little too big, or their Lips were too small, or their ears were to pointy, will take a look a this little girl and thank God for what he has given them.
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I agree that she is a beautiful gift from God also.
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Hey this little girl is lovely and beautiful in my eyes. She a lovely innocent little person. She has not known life in any way so i guess she doesnt know why she is 'different'. Cant you see this is a test for the rest of us to appreciate what God has given us? So maybe someone who thought their nose was a little too big, or their Lips were too small, or their ears were to pointy, will take a look a this little girl and thank God for what he has given them.
I'll say this: At the end of the day I can turn off the computer and go on with my life and forget about her. She will wake up everyday looking in the mirror and seeing herself. When she gets older and hits puberty... she'll be looking at society's image of beautiful and even ugly and find that she fits beyond the norm to the point of the grotesque. If by some genetic fluke like this was that she is some form of genius well that will be fortunate for her but as far as any form of normalcy goes... No Freaking Way! I do not and will not look at her as a test for me. That is a sick sick sick statement in itself. Why would a Loving God torture someone else to test other people. It's twisted to a point of disgust and if such is the frame of mind of this Loving God I would rather that Lucifer won the war.

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Why make it sound like somethings "wrong" with her? She has complications but that doesnt mean God isnt loving.. I saw her on tv, the biggest thing wrong with her is her face.
Somthing went wrong in the mothers womb and why do you blame God?
Shes here she isnt dying because her face isnt normal. Sure she'll face obsticles and such but that will make her a strong person in the end.
She can see and she can eat with a feeding tube. She isnt starving to death.
She gets her nutrition from what goes in the feeding tube, you get yours from what goes in your mouth. She just gets hers in a different way.
She has to face harder things, but why say its so bad? Why say just because shes not like us God doesnt love. This girl will hopefully find something that some 'normal' people never get to see or even wanna see.
See people for their hearts. For who they are.And thats something the people around her will learn to. God has a plan for her just as well as everyone else. I'm sure Julianna has touched and will touch many lives.
Dwarfs have to face some things like this to. People staring and surgeries.
That doesn't mean God doesnt love them. The only thing different between everyone else and dwarfs is dwarfs are short. Thats it. They do face more health issues but dwarfs are just short people with a medical name so docs know what differences are in their bodies to tall people's bodies.
Kids that are born with out legs or with too many toes the only thing different is they have to many or too little. That doesnt mean God doesnt love them, just they will do things differently than everyone else.
Saying that just because someone isnt "normal" God doesnt love them or love anyone is wrong. He loves you, he loves Julianna, he loves black people, white people, mexican people, asian people, and any other race there is.
He loves people with legs without legs, people who are blind people who can see, people who can talk ,people who cant, people cant hear people who cant, people with cases like Julianna's.
Julianna is a beautiful girl, not because of the way she looks, but because of who she is.


http://www.julianawetmore.net/pictures.php?id=69
If she didn't live in the age of technology we have today and it is pretty safe to assume that there were others like her out there before, she would have died or been killed. It's pretty safe to assume that there were others with this Syndrome before her. Why would a Loving God do this kind of thing to Julianna specifically... I don't care about anyone else around her... not her parents or her doctors... why her and how it is going to affect her based on her relationship with people.
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But is this worlds veiw of "Beauty" Beauty?
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And why not her? Why not Julianna? It could have been me...It could have been you...But why Julianna? Because God know julianna by heart. You know her by her face...What she looks like...He knows what her future will be if she trusts God. And she comes froma christian family so hopefully they will teach her what beautiful reallly is. I can say im an attractive person. Joe blow can say he is. Kara across the street can. But do you like someone just becuase of the way they look? Someone can be physically beautiful but be ugly inside.
Someone can be 'ugly' on the outside but be beautiful on the inside and people would like that person not because of what they look like but because of who they are...Now which sounds better to you? Someone being liked for what they look like or who they are?
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That is beside the point really. I am talking about her survival on this world. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder true. She isn't alone in this world and won't be alone in this world. She has to survive among the animals and her outlook isn't very good to dismal that she will ever have the acceptance she needs. Can't wait for her first job interview or a date with a boy/girl, maybe she can get into a program that is segregated for people like her. Not much of a life.
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