Chapstiquelova

A lot of him is beyond our comprehension.
He is an emotional beautiful spirit.
What makes you say what u said may i ask?

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The An-Jel

Rediculous... if a Loving God loves us all equally then why not make us all equal at least with each other under our own perceptions that we can understand. Why make something to test everyone else yet damn someone else? Life is a random streak of perceptions and feelings. It crucifies and builds others in a random manner. So far it really leans towards a Universe without an emotional God, maybe no God at all.

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sisterX

Anjel if you mean "why did God not jus created us without free will so that we are unable to sin" the the answer is, He has already created beings without free will who are unable to to sin they are called ANGELS. The fact that we have free will does not take away God's love for us. The funny thing is, He is so loving that He is ever willing to forgive us for our sins, no matter how great a sin, God is in wait to forgive, He is waits for our repentance and the second we sincerely repent, He is swift with His forgiveness. All we have to do is ask for the forgiveness, is that impossible?

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Chapstiquelova

Anjel sister said test...but with what i said:
What are you saying? You saying that some of us are better than others?

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1 Timothy 4:12
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John 15:18-21
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Og

This is silly. An all powerful god would have created human nature or else we are gods ourselves and akin to the creator and exist independent of god. Human behavior is a result of the computations of a highly complex neural network. Free will is a null term.

Your theistic stance is demonstrably false.

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The An-Jel

SisterX, I have yet to see any proof of Free Will or a need to repent for the very things that make us human. Existing in the herds we do sometimes bad things and good things happen.

Chap, some people are born to survive and others are not. If that child had been born 100 years ago probably even 50 years ago, she would have had no chance. It isn't a matter of being better than anyone else and yes I have met people more worthy of existence than others. I would shoot the methamphetamine dealer next door on my left before I would shoot the foster mother of five next door on my right if I had to choose one of them and not myself. That is a Utilitarian stance but I think it is worthy of judgement as a human. Yes I do think there are some people that are more worthy than others. The child that is in question here has a less chance of survival than most people and even as she survives is she going to have a good life? Time will tell, overall I would say no.

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Kham

Yes, of course. Some of us are more intelligent, attractive, athletic, etc. than others. Some of us will be born with defects that severely limit our capacity to do anything in this world. And don't pretend that that girl wasn't born with a defect. Don't tell me that the girl in the OP is beautiful in other ways and if society doesn't accept it, it's societies problem; because it isn't. It's her problem. She's the one who will suffer for it, not society.

There is no answer to this if you believe in an intervening god. God, to the theist, made her this way, purposefully. The only explanation is that god doesn't care or is malevolent. She did nothing wrong.

Of course, the non-theist has an answer that makes sense. There is no creator or designer, and she wound up that way by chance. Its not particularly cheerful, I suppose, but its what we know about reality.

Our "sins" are a result of human nature, and nothing else. Your god has created you sick and commanded you to be well. He demands that you be entirely subservient because you are unworthy, a worm before him. But was it "free will" that made you that way? Did you choose to be born a human, and did you choose each and every one of your faulty characteristics?

girlinterrupted364

i grew up in a "christian" home but i have always struggled with the protestant idea that god loves us. people at church are always like isnt god so great?? my eight yr old daughter just died of cancer. its like yea.... sweet, def want him for a friend. i have come to the conclussion that there must be a god. i dont believe that our world in its nearly perfect balance could have just 'poof' appeared. however im willing to be challenged on that. but i can not believe that god cares at all for us. i was abused by my parents and others as a child. but gee that loving god sure as hell was taking care of me. and guess what i surrived and am stronger for it. but who helped me thru that? no one and def not a loving god holding me up by invisible strings

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Chapstiquelova

Kham I think your wrong regardless of the existence of God or not.
We are all equal just different. And since someone can play sports better than somone else that means than better as in of higher value? And I never said it wasnt a birth defect it was. And just because the majority doesnt accept something rather its right or not we just go with it?
And im not saying she wont, but she'll find strength that the rest of us don't have...Don't look at her just as a negative she'll be able to give everyone the look on the postive side if she looks on the positve side of her self, I think people should stop talking about her like she's a curse, shes not , shes a wonderful human being. Explain about God not caring. what are your beliefs on how we got here?

Girlinterupted I havent seen you on here before so i'll assume your new lol Welcome. And wow, I am very sorry about your daughtr, and your child hood.
That is really horrible.
If ya pm I'll try to help u understand pain and suffering , and if your uncomfortable with that I'll try my best to explain on here. It comes across alot different on a personal level.

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1 Timothy 4:12
"Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith, and in purity.

John 15:18-21
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Chapstiquelova

Kham are you new? If you are i dont remember welcoming you, so welcome if you are...lol

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Fool for Christ - 1 corinthians 4:10

1 Timothy 4:12
"Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith, and in purity.

John 15:18-21
http://www.flashdemo.net/gallery/wake/index.htm