xexon

I'm telling you what I see. Because it is a form of seeing. You don't have to think for your eyes to see. I don't have to think to give the answers I do.

With me, the answers arrive instantly. Thinking is only engaged when I structure sentences for typing.

What is a higher realm?

Each realm has it's own frequency. The human realm is one of low frequency. The atomic energies within the particles here have a low vibrational rate. This gives this world a very dark and grainy appearance, like a low quality image.

Higher realms literally glow. Everything there gives off their own light. Theres no need for external light sources like here. The laws that apply there are exclusive to that realm. There really isn't anyway to discuss them as there is no way to make comparisons with this realm. I will say that this realm has the most restrictions upon your ability to create.

Imagine being within a realm where whatever you desire is created. As a human, you can imagine this talent getting out of hand pretty quickly. Thats why your world here has protections built into it. You're a child, and not ready to wield the power you actually own.

As for your English ghosts, keep in mind you create your own reality. If enough belief is concentrated together, it can create what you desire.



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xexon

Physical death is the area of scientists. They have a pretty good grasp of things.

Psychic death occurs when the soul actually lets go. It may be before of after physical death.


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debdodd

hmmmmm .... interesting notion ... still not sure when you are suggesting death occurs or in what context .... are you dead after your heart stops beating? are you dead when there is nominal brain functions? how does one know when a "psychic death occurs when the soul actually lets go"?

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xexon

Death isn't that technical. Same as you taking off a shirt. You can be halfway out of it and argue that you're still wearing it.

Even in physical death, the body is not lifeless. Decay is a process that involves population explosions of bacteria and such. The animating spirit of the body has vacated, but physical life continues on other levels now.

That animating spirit is not of this world. It is a resident of higher levels. When the connection to the body has been let go of, the soul lets it fall away. It can't go where the soul is anyway because it's gross matter. The soul is highly rarified energy.

You, as a human with physical eyes, can't see the soul at the time of departure. Some people are tuned a little higher than others and can see such things in an internalized way.

Physical death means the end of this human identity. Your soul just turns the page and keeps going.


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debdodd

then where does the "soul" go .... not trying to give you "trick" questions, just curious as to what you believe.

also at what point does the soul leave the body ... I know the dying of the body is a process but when does the alleged soul leave the body in that process ... the physical dying takes some time as you well know.

death is more technical than just taking off a shirt ....

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

xexon

The soul, at least a lower portion thereof, is here to play the game. Karma is the rule here. Action has a price tag attached to it. Action based on desire. Desire based on attachment.

Karma determines where your "soul" goes after death. If you believe in seeing dead loved ones after death, thats what you will see. If you believe you've been bad, you'll burn in hell. At least for a while. When that mental bubble bursts and you regain your composure, you'll see in a very clear way for a bit. At that point you can take a rest in some very nice places if your karma has been good. If you've been naughty, you are returned to life after your time in belief hell is over. And hopefully a little wiser.

Each new life is structured according to your karmic needs.

When your car runs out of gas, when do you get out? This is when the soul is done with the body. When it no longer has a future, the next incarnation is set to begin. The old identity is no longer needed.


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Og

This reincarnation stuff seems to me to be as much a metaphor as the heaven/hell thing is for christians.

The notion of a soul is silly to me. It puts you at odds with your true nature. Monism is where its at. The notion that something "leaves" when you die is something that doesn't make any sense to me.

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debdodd

so Og, once your heart stop beating, your brain cells die, it's over finito ... but how long before a person is actually "dead"?

I know they have done studies that have said that once your heart stopped beating you actually "go on" living for a while ..... what are the learned opinions on that? I can't remember where I read it or just what but you would be the most likely to know the answer around here .....

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

xexon

Heaven and hell are mental concepts, based upon how the mind works.

Duality is the language of the mind. It is designed to weigh one thing against another in order to determine worth. It accumulates evidence and renders a decision based on that evidence.

The only way it can do that is to split everything in half. In doing so, you have favored a limited awareness over an awareness which sees everything as whole.

Now positive and negative rule your world. Most all religions have their own names for this fact.

But the fact of the matter is, they only believe in half of God. The "good" half.

God is all there is. With no exception.

God is the clay of all creation. Even ghosts.

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xexon

"Official" death is when brain activity has ceased.

In the hospital, that's when they pull the plug.


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