niranjan

Krishnas wives were those who asked him to marry them. He did everything for others, never for himself , and he gave equal importance to them.

Also Rama, who is considered the ideal man and prophet of hinduism,only married once,and staunchly refused to marry again.


And even prior to this as well, the vast majority of hindus married only once. I have never known of an ancestor of mine who have married twice .

And even if by some means , polygamy is present in hinduism even now, I too , like Rama, will staunchly refuse to marry again. My sweetheart is the only girl in the world for me.







And how is that possible. quran and muhammad tells guys to marry 4 times. And this is why many muslim men marry 4 times . They sure have a great time in bed with 4 babes. And when they get bored with them, they just have to say talaq, 3 times, to get rid of them and marry 4 more, and have orgies with them as well.

How many times this has happened.






There is no need for religious tradition for this. This is common knowledge. If you want a wife, you must have money to support her.And if you want 4 wives to have fun, then again you need money to support them, and this is why many rich muslims marry 4 babes.





And I know of many instances where muslim men married beautiful second and third wives without their wives permission.

The quran also states that if the wife is disobedient , beat her without breaking bones so as to correct her.





Well, I was not aware of that. I am sure if there was something like that, millions of muslim first wives would have ensured that their husband does not marry 3 other girls and share her bed with them as well.


And i know of many women who married muslim men, only to find out later that he has an another wife and kids. Cripes.




Well, we see that as adultery, not polygamy. A criminal offence.














As I said, there are many hindu men who have married only once, ( the vast majority is such ), and this became a general law. It is not such a major thing as to import from the west.

Also , if the west have good ideals, what is wrong in accepting it as well. Our own scriptures say that there is good everywhere,and one should accept the good and reject the bad.


And where did my prophets own slaves. The rishis never owned slaves, nor did buddha, who also only married once, and so too the others.

Polygamy might have been needed at those times by some people among the warriors, but such a situation does not exist now, and this is why polygamy is banned in India, except in the muslim community, due to the rants of muslim fundamentalists, who likes orgies.








I have already done a lot of reading, and I know that it is not a proper system. If you think it is moral, then persuade your husband to marry some 3 other beautiful babes, and share your bed with them.Not doing so is hypocrisy on your part.

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---Krishna ( Bhagavad Gita )


“You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.”

---Buddha


The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason.

---Thomas Paine

sisterX

lol I just told you that if a man should marry more than once he must provide SEPARATE HOUSES for each wife, so forget about sharing a bed with them both! I think your imagination is getting the better of you.

I think it IS moral to give people the CHOICE of being in a polygamy relationship.
You say you dont know any hindus who have more than one wife, well I dont know any muslims who have more than one wife.

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sisterX

And the Quran does NOT allow the beating of wives, some people have misinterpreted it in that way. But that interpretation contradicts with everything else that is said about how to treat ones wife.

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niranjan

And how is that possible. Muhammad had more than 4 wives, and he had them all in the same house, including his 9 year old wife Aisha, as he was povertystricken.


And I know of muslims even now, who have more than one wife in the same house, without any problems whatsoever.





Moral for u maybe, but not for us, and not for the vast majority of women, who are made up of flesh and blood.

As I said before, if u think polygamy is moral, then urge your husband to marry 3 more wives. I think he will bless you for this proposal .


And I know many muslims who have more than 1 wife, which includes friends of mine.

One even said to me, that he wanted a third wife, but lack of money is his problem.

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You yourself are your only friend. You yourself are your only enemy.

---Krishna ( Bhagavad Gita )


“You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.”

---Buddha


The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason.

---Thomas Paine

sisterX

Well your friend is right you need to have lots of money to afford more than one wife. You may know people who keep more than one wife in the same house but they are breaking the rules.
As for Muhammed keeping all his wives in the same house. You are COMPLETELY wrong, stop making such assumptions. They all had their own places, and 9 year old Aisha actually did not even live with him until she was in her teens.

I would not want my husband to take another wife but I believe I have a right to that CHOICE. For example if I could not have children I would want my husband to have children of his own and still be married to me, so in that case I would allow him to marry a second wife. I'm not that selfish.

There are many women who really dont mind sharing their husbands and they also have a right to that CHOICE. Morals do not evolve, we have always been hmans and will always be humans. Are you telling me something that was so accepted in the Hindu religion only a century ago is now seen as immoral?

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"But as for me (I believe) that He is Allah, my Lord, and I shall associate none as partner with my Lord." Surah Al-Kahf verse 38. Holy Quran

niranjan

So i guess, if you are a rich muslim man, you can immediately marry 4 muslim babes and have steamy sex with all of them in 4 beds just like that!!!

Way to go , dudes.







Many muslims break the rules , and no one is complaining. Similarly is this. No one is complaining either.



Muhammad was povertystricken . He could not afford more than one house, even though he had a dozen wives. Hence all of them were in the same house.


As for 9 year ols aisha, the hadiths clearly states many times that muhammad married aisha and consummated the marriage, when she was 9 years old. And Muhammad was 53 years old at that time.

And this is happening now as well. Many rich arabs, marry little girls in poverty stricken muslim families and countries, in order to deflower them, and after a few days of paedophilia, conveniently say the magic word, talaq, in order to divorce them.

This regularly happens in India and other countries too. I know of many muslim girls who have committed suicide after these divorces , probably due to the humiliation and sexual abuse.

Recently a film was made in south india on this subject, by a muslim producer who is a moderate intellectual , and the woman who played the role of the muslim girl who was battered by her husband, Meera Jasmine, bagged the best actor award in India , for her role in that film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384404/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...how/570241.cms

http://www.acteva.com/pba/21597/temp...event_id=65486

This and other films, and documentaries and media coverage, are putting
a lot of pressure on muslim fundamentalists who are keen to show that muslims are very kind to women and little girls.





And who gives you the RIGHT TO THAT CHOICE. Many muslim women are denied that choice and their husbands taken 3 more wives,whether they like it or not.

As a devout muslim woman, you should urge your husband to take more wives, especially from povertystricken families, and have sex with them, so as to satisfy their financial and physical needs. And if you don't do that, I will consider u a hypocrite.




Well, I didn't know that there are many women who don't mind their husbands having hot sex with their other wives.

From what I know, from my personal experience with my lover and mother, and of analysing female psychology and the psychology of many female acquaintances of mine is that they hate the very idea of sharing their lover or husband, and sometimes even commits murder if it happens.

I find this to be universal, except only in 'devout' muslim women like you.

And I don't think it is unnatural at all, because I too don't like sharing my beloved with other men, and so do other men as well.
Why should women be any different and urged to deny their natural instincts. I think it is unhealthy and will lead to psychological damage.

And this could be the reason why muslim women seems to lack self-confidence, self-esteem, dignity, feminine elegance and assertiveness .


The hindu religion and scriptures tells nothing about marrying more than once, and the vast majority of hindus marry only once. This then became a general rule. There is no question of it being immoral or something.

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You yourself are your only friend. You yourself are your only enemy.

---Krishna ( Bhagavad Gita )


“You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.”

---Buddha


The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason.

---Thomas Paine

sisterX

Islam does not encourage polygamy in fact one could say it is discouraged. Why would I urge my husband to take another wife, that would not make me devout! Where do you get these silly ideas from?

Bye bye mate you are boring me.

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Mustainez

The Old Testament is filled with bloodbaths by "Christians" and even where they are told by God to keep the virgins for themselves.

GX

A quick history lesson here Mustainez. Christians (or christ for that matter) didnt exist during the times of the old testament. The "old testament" is a religious history of the Jewish people before the birth of Christ. Therefore the bloodbaths of the old testament are not "christian" bloodbaths. The new testament on the other hand is the history of Christ and his followers.

Your understandable enthusiasm of your beliefs is to be commended however it needs to be accompanied by a keen knowledge of the side you disagree with if you wish to be an effective debater. In other words, study the "other side" as well as the things you believe. This way you will be that much more convinced of your own beliefs as well that much more able to defend them from those who oppose your beliefs. I dont mean to be critical here, just a friendly bit of advice as you pursue your education

Mustainez

Thank you for the comment!