Maximus

Again I say, I believe that God is Dark Matter.

Without it nothing can exist but it carries no impact, it only exists as the center of existence.

Armel P

"God" is not a word a true agnostic should be defining.

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Og

I don't know why you keep on going about this. You say that dark matter carries no impact? It has gravitation, it lenses light from stars. It modifies the acceleration of the universe. Calling this god seems kind of arbitrary. Are you imparting some supernatural powers to dark matter or are you just saying that "dark matter = god"? Seems like an odd/confusing use of the term if the latter is the case.

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Armel P

Not confusing. It just serves no purpose. Nothing about the nature of dark matter (if it exists as it is hypothesized to be) changes by applying a word like god to it arbitrarily (as you poined out). Dark matter is dark matter; it doesn't need to be anything else.

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The An-Jel

I think what Maximus is alluding to and correct me if I am wrong Maximus. God is some nonsentient thing existing in or is Dark Matter? How it created the universe is a mystery yet to be solved... unless you got an answer for that to... but essentially manipulates the universe as some unseen force. Is that about it?

Sorry the writer in me couldn't help but flesh out such an arbitrary belief.

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Maximus

It is true that Dark Matter is not yet completely defined, which is why it's easier for me to refer to it as God, for the word God is used by many as a reference to the ultimate power or " the man at the very top ".

Having been surrounded by religion for most of my life many people choose to believe God is benevolent, responsible for the existence of all things.

Now I believe God is neautral, not saying he's the creator of anything, we can never know that, but more so God is the center of existence, Dark Matter seems to be that, the question here is could anything exist without Dark Matter? The black we see when we look up at the stars.

Obviously I'm choosing to believe in something, many people choose to believe in some religious teaching, I don't, me believing God is Dark Matter doesn't change my life, for I believe existence is neverending, for I think that energy can never actually die, Dark Matter can never actually be destroyed, at least I choose to believe that.

Humanity uses God as another word for ultimate, I suppose, I choose to use the word God as the center of existence, without it there is nothing.

I confuse myself sometimes but I do believe I've made myself clear now.

One more time:

By me, God = Dark Matter, which is the center of existence.

lauraclay

So are you using the term 'God' not to refer to some ultimate being, but just to refer to the unknown? Because if you're saying God is dark matter, but that dark matter isn't defined, isn't that just nothing? Or are you just assuming that dark matter is the center of existence even though we don't know what it is? Why use the term 'God'? Aren't you basically just denying the existence of a god anyway? Why still utilize the term?

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Og

Are you referring to what astrophysicists call dark matter? Extra material in the universe that doesn't give off light like stars but has gravitational effects? If so, this stuff is not at the center of anything. In fact, it's been made very clear by relativity (a testable and repeatable fact) that there is no center of the universe/existence. The speed of light is constant in all inertial reference frames.

I don't get what the value is of calling dark matter God. It's not. It's dark matter. It's not at the center of anything. It's fairly well understood and mapped out. It has a real gravitational effect that we can see by the way it bends light. It just doesn't emit photons (hence "Dark") so its hard to detect and we can't really get an idea of the contents of it (from spectroscopy).

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Maximus

Yes, that's exactly it.

I use the term God because I don't believe God is a benevolent being that is responsible for anything, I believe God just exists but does nothing except exist at the center.

Like a domino effect, for I choose to believe time is circular, time repeats itself, because there doesn't have to be an end but there HAS to be a beginning UNLESS time is circular and eventually repeats itself, and God is just always there in the center never changing.

Maximus

When I say center I don't mean center I mean without its existence nothing else exists, that's what I mean by center, but this is all assumption on my part.