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03-17-2007, 09:15 AM
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| Jesus Christ lived in India It is noteworthy that the Bible makes no mention of Jesus Christ between the ages of 18 to 30 . Jesus Christ lived in India between the ages of 18 to 30 .After crucifixion , he returned back to India where he lived in Kashmir till his death .
This has been said by the Indian spiritual masters Paramahamsa Yogananda , Osho, Satya Sai Baba and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Jesus's teaching of chastity, non-violence, and renunciation were derived from Hinduism, Buddhism and Yoga.
The proof for this can be obtained from the books 'Jesus lived in India' , written by a team of Western scholars and archaeologists and ' Hinduism and Christianity' by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar( the founder of the Art of Living Foundation). |
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03-17-2007, 11:40 AM
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| Jesus was "The Buddha of Nazareth" for sure. His teachings and his life story are identical to that of the Buddha (500 years earlier). They just are a folk representation (i.e. hebrew) of the same elementary ideas.
As for the exact literal nature of his life and how it's expressed, I'm certain we can never actually say what he actually did in his lifetime.
If you want details about what possibly led to the rise of jesus and his teachings, I recommend looking at the creation of the roman silk road to the east and of the missionaries of Ashoka the Great (the first buddhist emperor of India). The foundations are clear and span hundreds of years prior to jesus' teachings.
Christianity is a folks expression of the elementary ideas of buddhism mixed with the approach of rome. There is nothing that jesus said that is in any way unique when cast in the light of the buddhist teachings available at the time. Even jesus' birth story and spiritual birth story (i.e. temptation in the desert) are identical to that of the buddha on many levels.
I don't think that its really all that important to know the exact facts about it. If people are hung up on reading the life of jesus as a newspaper report, they have much deeper problems that things like evidence can fix.
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03-17-2007, 11:46 AM
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| I should expand. Ashoka the great sent buddhist missionaries into the west in about 300bc. The expansion of the roman silk road allowed for unprecidented mixtures of cultures and alexander's conquest into the east further drove the cultural mixing.
Jesus is just the most obvious focal point for the hybridization of these two cultures.
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03-17-2007, 01:30 PM
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| Would it be reasonable to assume that the writers of the Bible copied their stuff from actual events that took place in the past? I mean the fall of Lucifer is reminicent of the Battle between the Titans and the Gods of the Ancient Greeks except God wins where the Gods won instead in the Greek religion. Jesus could have easily been inspired by the Indians. Greek philosophers travelled far and wide back in the days. Back in these times before Christ as far as the Greeks go... a lot of philosophical schools were coming out and even after the Greeks fall to the Romans... Greek schools continued to influence the world. The Death of Socrates is reminiscent of the Death of Jesus... they died for their values. Stoicism was huge in Rome next to the Roman (Greek) Pantheon of Gods, and Epicureanism (I think I remember thats true or some form of the same type of philosophical position.) Really if you look at Christianity, I mean Socrates did not believe in the Gods but a single God. This is one of the reasons the Athenian council brought charges of corruption of the youth charges against the man. It was the main reason. Too many similarities for my comfort. How was the word of Christ spread? Word of mouth through the poor who had nothing better to do but suffer and it brought simply what they needed... Hope! Pandora's Box? A classic Roman tale!
One of the fun things I found in Philosophy was that Saint Thomas Aquinas used Aristotlean Logic... A PAGAN... to justify the existence of God! Is it reasonable to assume at all that the Greeks applied their own culture and Indian Culture in an attempt to create a new school of thought?
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03-17-2007, 02:42 PM
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| The absence of any evidence of Jesus in his years between 18 and 30 is typical among cults and religions thousands of years before Jesus. In Egypt the gods(Horus) did the same thing during the same ages. Birth to 12 -nothing- 30 to death and resurrection. As as far as Greek influence goes, just read the NT and look at its influence. The book of John is heavily based on a Greek and Roman motif. BTW, from what I understand Buddhist are concerned with enlightenment and Christianity is concerned with a salvific process. They are not the same thing. Certainly one could be a Christian and a Buddhist experiencing salvation and enlightnement. |
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03-17-2007, 03:48 PM
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| Sure, there are similarities and coincidences between Greek/Roman history and Jesus' life. All religions are similar. But I think that saying that because they are similar they are somehow related is a little rash. I mean, look at Presidents Lincoln and Kennedy. I'm sure we're all familiar with their similarities. (If not, Similarities Between the Assassinations of Kennedy and Lincoln - School for Champions: Succeed through Studying History ). But I doubt their was any conspiracy there.
I'm not saying that there is not direct connection here, just saying, it could easily be coincidence/proof that their were similar revolutionary ideas in that day and age. |
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03-17-2007, 03:51 PM
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Og I should expand. Ashoka the great sent buddhist missionaries into the west in about 300bc. The expansion of the roman silk road allowed for unprecidented mixtures of cultures and alexander's conquest into the east further drove the cultural mixing.
Jesus is just the most obvious focal point for the hybridization of these two cultures. |
Yeah, I agree with you. For example, Jesus quotes "Love thy neighbour".
The Buddha himself , in the Lalitavastras, states, " The way you respond to your neighbour is the way your neighbour will respond to you. If you treat him with hatred , he will treat you with hatred. If you treat him with love , he will treat you with love. Therefore always love your neighbour."
It should be mentioned that the term 'neighbour' is clearly used by the Buddha.
Another similarity of Jesus with the Buddha is that both had stated that one should reciprocate evil or injury with good and love.
As Swami Vivekananda said, Jesus ,Buddha and LaoTse are the only prophets in the world who have stated that one should reciprocate evil or injury with love and good.
This above teaching of Jesus is far removed from the ' eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth' teaching of Judaism , in which he was born .
The teachings of chastity and renunciation too by Christ , is not found in Judaism, but are found in Buddhism and Hinduism.
Also , Jesus's teaching of " I and my Father are one " is similar to the Upanishadic teachings of monism or pantheism. An example of this is the verse in the Upanishads ," Aham Brahmasmi ", which means " I am He".
There are much more of these striking similarities in the books I have mentioned that are more than mere coincidences. |
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03-17-2007, 04:03 PM
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| So what do you think those similarities mean?
I would guess that they mean that Christianity, like nearly every other religion, borrowed ideas from other religions. No religion is truly unique. It's almost as if people just keep revising what they don't like about a current religion to found a new one. |
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03-17-2007, 04:48 PM
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| Buddha was born a spiritual birth from his mothers hip
Jesus was born a spiritual birth from a virgin
Buddha talked with the gurus of his time before enlightenment
Jesus talked with the gurus of his time before enlightenment (john the baptist)
Buddha was tempted 3 times
Jesus was tempted 3 times
After defeating temptation, they both achieved enlightenment.
Jesus had a dove come down and god sayed "this is my beloved son."
Buddha had queen maya of the universe come down and say "This is my beloved son."
Jesus formed a group of disciples and traveled and taught
Buddha formed a group of disciples and traveled and taught
Ananda, buddha's disciple didn't "get" the message and buddha tasked him with starting the teaching of buddhism
Peter, jesus' disciple didn't "get" it (i.e. put down your sword!) and jesus tasked him with starting the church of christianity
And the parallels continue.
__________________ Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe) Satchitananda - True Being, Pure Consciousness, and Bliss Tat Tvam Asi - Thou art That. You & I, no distinction. Mettā & Namaste |
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03-17-2007, 07:04 PM
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| Watch 300 Og. So many Parallels between the Gods and your Christianity and their Christianity. It's really not to save you... just from yourself and me. I know what you think is happening. Suave with yourself, life really doesn't work that.
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