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03-21-2007, 08:55 PM
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| niranjan, I knew what you were implying, I was just trying to make another point. Sorry if it came off as attacking your or anything like that. I agree, to understand Jesus, you must understand everything surrounding him, everything he came from. |
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03-27-2007, 02:26 AM
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| i was wrong... I thought this theory that Jesus was in India and Jesus sitting in yogic poses was a western missionary invention so that they can get some more Hinduism followers to their flock.
Now some of the posts on this topic is making me think the otherwise. |
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04-07-2007, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by niranjan Yeah, I agree with you. For example, Jesus quotes "Love thy neighbour".
The Buddha himself , in the Lalitavastras, states, " The way you respond to your neighbour is the way your neighbour will respond to you. If you treat him with hatred , he will treat you with hatred. If you treat him with love , he will treat you with love. Therefore always love your neighbour."
It should be mentioned that the term 'neighbour' is clearly used by the Buddha.
| Its not the Lalitavastras, but the Lalitavistaras . And the Buddha's quote is .....
"Through love alone can hate be vanquished; through perfect love evil may be overcome … Speak no harsh words to your neighbour, and he will respond to you in like terms."
Apologize for the slight mistake as I was quoting from memory at that time.
Still wish to emphasize that Buddha clearly uses the term ' neighbour ' , and also in an identical sense to that of Jesus.
Here is an another striking similarity between Christianity and Hinduism.
Christianity has a trinity of God, in the form of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Hinduism too has a trinity in the form of Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva.
The Puranas and hindu scriputures state that Vishnu is the father of Brahma, as Brahma is said to have come from Vishnus navel .
So we have a Father and Son in the form of Vishnu and Brahma.
That leaves us with the third element of the Hindu trinity, Shiva, the Lord of Destruction.
An another name for Shiva is Bhootanath, which is the sanskrit name meaning 'Holy Ghost.' Bhoota in Sanskrit and and in most languages in India, clearly means ghost.
So here we have a Father , Son, and Holy Ghost in the Hindu trinity as well , which is strikingly similar to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost of Christianity.
All this is presented in detail in Sri Sri Ravi Shankars " Hinduism and Christianity."
I remember An-Jel expressing his liking for Rudra , an another name for Shiva , in the Hinduism forum. Can't help feeling amused at the irony.  |
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04-25-2007, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by niranjan It is noteworthy that the Bible makes no mention of Jesus Christ between the ages of 18 to 30 . Jesus Christ lived in India between the ages of 18 to 30 .After crucifixion , he returned back to India where he lived in Kashmir till his death .
This has been said by the Indian spiritual masters Paramahamsa Yogananda , Osho, Satya Sai Baba and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Jesus's teaching of chastity, non-violence, and renunciation were derived from Hinduism, Buddhism and Yoga.
The proof for this can be obtained from the books 'Jesus lived in India' , written by a team of Western scholars and archaeologists and ' Hinduism and Christianity' by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar( the founder of the Art of Living Foundation). |
The Bible can be defined loosely in several ways. The Christian Bible, aside from the Catholic Apocrypha, is composed of cannon, that is to say - God-breathed scripture. So in essence, you are really saying there is no mention of Jesus from the ages of 18-30 in the canonical Bible.
That is because when determining what should be considered cannon the elders of the early church determined that of the 42 gospels (for that is how many there are) that only 4 were noteworthy. The others lacked multiple sources and credibility, were determined heretical, or were just worthless text. The ones that remained had multiple eye witnesses, were applicable to all, and noteworthy in importance.
The book that said Jesus went to India and received influence there comes straight out of the Gospel of Nicodemus from the Gnostic Bible. The other books probably used that book as a source. The problem is that there is not eye witness account, only one misleading source, and the topics addressed were very irrelevant.
So where was Jesus during that time? Clearly it was not deemed important to salvation and the story of his crucifixion. It is far more important to show that Jesus came to advert people to eschatological times and spread love and grace for all. |
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04-26-2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by charedez The book that said Jesus went to India and received influence there comes straight out of the Gospel of Nicodemus from the Gnostic Bible. The other books probably used that book as a source. The problem is that there is not eye witness account, only one misleading source, and the topics addressed were very irrelevant.. |
Well, well, well, so there is a gospel that tells that Jesus went to India and got his training there. I was not aware of this. Quote:
Originally Posted by charedez So where was Jesus during that time? Clearly it was not deemed important to salvation and the story of his crucifixion. | I think it is , in order to rationally understand what he said. |
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04-29-2007, 10:35 AM
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| Here are other spooky names of Shiva or the Holy Ghost.
Nishachara : The Night Walker
Like the goblins, spirits,ghosts roaming around at night, He stalks the four corners of the universe, suggesting of rising above all that is material.
Pretachari : The Companion of the dead.
The cemetery being His favourite ground, He is a constant companion of the dead.
Bhutachari : The companion of the goblin.
Lord Shiva , who loves the burial ground, is attended by goblins who are His companions during such visits.
Shmashanavasi : The dweller of the cremation ground.
The cremation ground is his favourite residence of Lord Shiva, suggesting that he stands for the transcendence of the mundane. |
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06-05-2007, 06:30 PM
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| Buddhist Monks All Buddhist Monks are homosexuals because they served idols and they live without wives. They are really wicked demons who passed themselves for holy.
A story: On National Geographic, two Buddhists, a man and his wife, were rushing to worship. On their way to the shrines, an elephant trampled them killing his wife and maimed him.
Now why would an elephant be spooked by this people. Because the spirits in them were so evil that the elephant couldn't control the urge of destroying them. These spirits that were in the demons were trapped but the husband survived and these demons could escaped. Animals see what we cannot see and feel evil that we cannot feel, although some times some demons are so evil that they raise the hair on the back of our neck when they are approaching us.
Those indians buddhists worship elephants.
Steve Erwin, the crocodiles' man, died while on a mission to videotape submarine creatures. His presence spooked the animals. His spirits must have been evil to spook the creature. The demons inside him were trapped as well. Later, I found out in documentary on Steve Erwin that his son was baptized by Buddhist monks.
The Almighty's Creatures serve Him and Him only. |
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06-06-2007, 12:49 AM
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| hey blast... if all buddhist monks are homsexuals because they live without wives, by your logic are all christian priests gays too?
man are you a pentacoast? the do speak a lot of demons and evil stuff... |
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06-06-2007, 07:33 AM
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| There seems to be a lot of evidence supporting the scenario that Jesus may have lived in India between the ages of 18 to 30. Since his crucifixion was interrupted by an earthquake, it also seems possible that Jesus may have survived to live a long life. There are some scholars that surmise that Jesus may have travelled to the British Isles with Joseph of Arimathea (his uncle?)
instead of returning to India after the crucifixion. Whatever the case, it seems that the new testament of the bible was written more to suit the purposes of the powerful church than to reveal much truth about the life of the real Jesus (Yeshua?).
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06-06-2007, 09:15 PM
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| I believe God sent many many prophets, thousands, there were no people who were left without knowledge. Adam was the first prophet and Muhammed was the last.
The teachings were all the same, they all came with the same message, the 'Oneness of God' and to worship only one God. This message is there in minute detail everywhere you go.
__________________ "But as for me (I believe) that He is Allah, my Lord, and I shall associate none as partner with my Lord." Surah Al-Kahf verse 38. Holy Quran |
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