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09-23-2006, 12:48 PM
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| The God and Goddess is actually how the wiccan perceive the "one" the infinite source or whatever anyone out there calls it. They break it up into dual because of the femine & male in everything. I think it was just an easier way for them to relate to "the one" or "the creator" if you will. |
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09-23-2006, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wlctrent The God and Goddess is actually how the wiccan perceive the "one" the infinite source or whatever anyone out there calls it. They break it up into dual because of the femine & male in everything. I think it was just an easier way for them to relate to "the one" or "the creator" if you will. | I was aware of that and it’s not that I don’t believe in the Goddess or God of Neo-Paganism specifically, it’s that I’m not convinced there is a “One” (though it’s possible that there is). Although, if there is a “One” I think that the Pagan system is probably closer to the truth than, say, the Christian male God. (I do know some Christians that say their god is neither sex or sexless; however, in my opinion, the Abrahamic Religions are inherently patriarchal.) |
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09-23-2006, 10:56 PM
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| So why does paganism seem to be a draw more to females than males?
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09-25-2006, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by George So why does paganism seem to be a draw more to females than males? |
Here are some thoughts I have…
One important reason might be that it’s more empowering for women compared to Christianity and its cousins. Men are already empowered by Christianity, whereas women are not. Paganism has a balance between the feminine and the masculine, and women might be attracted to this because it gives women an equal place, even in the Divine; while for men this might not be as important. I don’t mean that all (religious) men who are Christian or who aren’t Pagan are sexist. It’s that they might not feel, experience, or realize this inequality and the harm it can do to the same degree as a woman might.
The feeling of empowerment might also be attractive because Christianity has heavily influenced our culture and this has greatly contributed to women generally feeling less empowered in our society. (Thankfully, this is changing; albeit slowly.)
Additionally, men, more so than women, are (or are at least taught by our culture to be) competitive, to win, to dominate, to conquer. This isn’t as compatible with a nature-based spirituality as it is with Christianity. |
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10-13-2006, 08:34 PM
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| Pagans I think that pagans are hard to deal with but it is important for people to try to trust in each other for matters of importance. I hope the pagans don't hate me, I hope that people see that there is more to life than the willingness to confuse on the basis that secrecy is the only way that we can survive. I think that people believe that it is important that we are sure about the willingness to try to make the effort to "believe" in certian phenomenon in order to keep people from being implicated for the death of a dozen people for a mistake. I hope that there is a way that people believe that we are well with ourselves, whether we believe in phenomenon or not. I hope that I remain reputable in saying what I think whether it is absolute truth or not. I hope that my attacks on people are either true or not, can be forgiven.
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10-26-2006, 01:38 PM
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| Interesting how concrete this is, ok? I want to say that it is not bad to be quiet because sharing the right questions with people are the best things that we have. Then people can go ahead and repeat what they are asked, "please" to say using the same vernacular to help others with the things that they need or want already, kind of anarchish? I think that all of this mathematical stuff can work out if we don't try to follow other people's turf and shwack them with laws about disputes: did he let them go? was he imprisioned? Where are the papers...burning twice over and cooling slow? So anyhow, when you are trying to understand relativity don't even try to make something happen with controlling the notes that other people have. to allow oneself to be subjected to some kind of treatment: to submit to chemotherapy, not an option. The willing submit to serving through leadership. Something to think about, constantly.
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10-26-2006, 08:54 PM
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| wow, that was like, thirteen topic changes in two posts.
mplltt, i think your train of thought is a runaway train. 
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11-16-2006, 04:55 PM
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| you are my only opponent. Look pal, if you think this is a christian site for people with a christian problem you are wrong. Go back to your christian youth group and tell people about how you christianize people on the internet. All you have shown me is that you are full of one-liners.
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11-25-2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ninikins Have you been interested in paganism at some point and what branch wa sthe most interesting to you? |
I've had a soft spot for pagans ever since they burnt Edward Woodward in the original Wicker Man film, he thoroughly deserved it for his bad acting.. |
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11-28-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mplltt I want to say that it is not bad to be quiet because sharing the right questions with people are the best things that we have. Then people can go ahead and repeat what they are asked, "please" to say using the same vernacular to help others with the things that they need or want already, kind of anarchish? I think that all of this mathematical stuff can work out if we don't try to follow other people's turf and shwack them with laws about disputes: did he let them go? was he imprisioned? Where are the papers...burning twice over and cooling slow? So anyhow, when you are trying to understand relativity don't even try to make something happen with controlling the notes that other people have. to allow oneself to be subjected to some kind of treatment: to submit to chemotherapy, not an option. The willing submit to serving through leadership. Something to think about, constantly. | I was just trying to explain a plane ride back from Canada and some of the thoughts that I had while on the plane.
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