a slave of Allah

I shall come to your dark posts with a Mighty Light from God which will cause them to disappear, since you have nothing but a lie.

Do you think that a lie can last a long time ?

or do you think that people are not important, so you don't have to care about their life, especially the last day life ?

People will come to know who is the bad among us, in truth.

AB517

You will see only the book vanish when the light of truth shinnes, you and all of us will be left standing with each other as one.

Astreja

Then why does your hypothetical 'Allah' keep demanding something it doesn't need? Hmm? Inquiring minds want to know.

(snip horrendously long section of meaningless preaching out of a book most of us don't believe to be true)

ASoA, for the gazillionth time, we do not want to read through hundreds of paragraphs of the Qur'an. Those of us who are interested enough to read up on Islam can go to websites like sacred-texts.com -- A discussion board is a place for discussion, not preaching.

A lesson that I see you have recently learned over at Richard Dawkins' fine forum.

If you can't talk to us as a person, as a real live human being with opinions of his or her own, there is absolutely no point in you being here. Do you understand this? Yes or no?

Seriously... All you are doing is making your chosen faith appear ridiculous.

WilliamBlue

The only truth I think he has even come close to is the 'slave' part of his name.

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How can we be so arrogant and egotistical to believe that the whole Universe was created just for us?

a slave of Allah

yes, Islam is considered as a disaster for your world, since the light always destroy the darkness.

8. They intend to put out the Light of Allâh (i.e. the religion of Islâm, this Qur'ân, and Prophet Muhammad SAW) with their mouths. But Allâh will complete His Light even though the disbelievers hate (it).

9. He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâmic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh and in His Messenger Muhammed SAW) hate (it)[].


this is exactly the method of those who are evils and they don't want the truth, why don't you put it in its context ? or you want to misslead those who are interesting in the Truth ?

Allah Glory be to Him said:

83. And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: "I shall recite to you something of his story."

84. Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything.

85. So he followed a way.

86. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allâh) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."

87. He said: "As for him (a disbeliever in the Oneness of Allâh) who does wrong, we shall punish him; and then he will be brought back unto his Lord; Who will punish him with a terrible torment (Hell).

88. "But as for him who believes (in Allâh's Oneness) and works righteousness, he shall have the best reward, (Paradise), and we (Dhul-Qarnain) shall speak unto him mild words (as instructions)."

So, the king (Dhul-Qarnain) thought the sun fall into a well, becuse this is what it looks like, this is a strong evidence that not all what you see is correct.

Also, if you don't see something, that does not mean that it does not exist, because you don't see the stars in the morning, but they exist.

Allah created the water and the air, He made (both of them having no colour), but He lets us able to see water and unable to see the air.

So, if someone can not deny the existance of air, how can he deny The Existance of Allah The innovative Creator ?


36. And most of them follow nothing but conjecture. Certainly, conjecture can be of no avail against the truth. Surely, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do.

37. And this Qur'ân is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allâh (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation)[] which was before it [i.e. the Taurât (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns,and all that exists).

38. Or do they say: "He (Muhammad SAW) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a Sûrah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can, besides Allâh, if you are truthful!"

39. Nay, they deny that; the knowledge whereof they could not compass and whereof the interpretation has not yet come unto them. Thus those before them did deny. Then see what was the end of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.)!

40. And of them there are some who believe therein, and of them there are some who believe not therein, and your Lord is All-Aware of the Mufsidûn (evil-doers, liars, etc.).

41. And if they belie you, say: "For me are my deeds and for you are your deeds! You are innocent of what I do, and I am innocent of what you do!"

42. And among them are some who listen to you, but can you make the deaf to hear, even though they apprehend not?

43. And among them are some who look at you, but can you guide the blind, even though they see not?

44. Truly! Allâh wrongs not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves.

45. And on the Day when He shall gather (resurrect) them together, (it will be) as if they had not stayed (in the life of this world and graves, etc.) but an hour of a day. They will recognise each other. Ruined indeed will be those who denied the meeting with Allâh, and were not guided.

Lanya

From the wording, I assume the sunset was at an actual spring, i.e. a spring was seen on the horizon where the sunset happened to be.

I don't think this is a reference to how the sun moves.

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Lanya

I assume this is because although air (as well as stars during the day) has not been seen, it's been consisently detected through other means. Allah, I assume, hasn't been consistently detected in any way.

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a slave of Allah

yes, it is not a reference to the movement of the sun, it is how he (Dhul-Qarnain) thought.

if you are in the sea, you will see the sun rise from under the sea, and sink below the surface of water.

a slave of Allah

jimmy77611

Why is anyone even wasting effort trying to have a rational debate this drone?