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05-11-2008, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah
you and me have probally come from very different cultures and subcultures, we've been raised differently and thus see the world through different eyes.
. | you are right, but i will follow the truth even if i find it in your religion, because this is Islam (following the truth), and we are not afraid of that because all the truth leads to Allah, and there is no way to reach The Great, but the right way.
so we submit only for The Truth. Allah is The Truth and The Merciful One
without my God every thing is nothing
I believe too, that a doubt is nothing, so we can not depends on it.
If the police suspect on you, they have to verify what they are claiming through truth, not through another guessing. |
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05-11-2008, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah I had some problems, but when I asked Him to help me, they all were solved. | Can you tell us more about this? | ...the class started at 8:00 am, and I used to sleep at 1:30 am and wake up at 4:00 am to pray (we have 5 prayers every day, their time is ordained By Allah glorybe to Him) then I go back to sleep again, and sometimes I miss the class... | Did your professor know this? | sorry Lanya, a jump your question....
the answer is yes,
he said: "this is not my business" |
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05-11-2008, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah Quote:
Originally Posted by romansh Dear asoA,
So you believe in Allah,
you know your Qur'an.
This is nice. | sure, thank you very much brother: romansh | your welcome .... but you did not answer my question(s):
Now what? | now listen:
In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. 1. Qâf.
By the Glorious Qur'ân.
2. Nay, they wonder that there has come to them a warner (Muhammad SAW) from among themselves. So the disbelievers say: "This is a strange thing!
3. "When we are dead and have become dust (shall we be resurrected?) That is a far return."
4. We know that which the earth takes of them (their dead bodies), and with Us is a Book preserved (i.e. the Book of Decrees).
5. Nay, but they have denied the truth (this Qur'ân) when it has come to them, so they are in a confused state (can not differentiate between right and wrong).
6. Have they not looked at the heaven above them, how We have made it and adorned it, and there are no rifts in it?
7. And the earth! We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely growth (plants).
8. An insight and a Reminder for every slave turning to Allâh (i.e. the one who believes in Allâh and performs deeds of His obedience, and always begs His pardon).
9. And We send down blessed water (rain) from the sky, then We produce therewith gardens and grain (every kind of harvests) that are reaped.
10. And tall date-palms, with ranged clusters;
11. A provision for (Allâh's) slaves. And We give life therewith to a dead land. Thus will be the resurrection (of the dead).
12. Denied before them (i.e. these pagans of Makkah who denied you, O Muhammad SAW) the people of Nûh (Noah), and the dwellers of Rass, and the Thamûd,
13. And 'Ad, and Fir'aun (Pharaoh), and the brethren of Lout (Lot),
14. And the dwellers of the Wood, and the people of Tubba'; everyone of them denied (their) Messengers, so My Threat took effect.
15. Were We then tired with the first creation? Nay, They are in confused doubt about a new creation (i.e. Resurrection)?
16. And indeed We have created man, and We know what his ownself whispers to him. And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein (by Our Knowledge).
17. (Remember!) that the two receivers (recording angels) receive (each human being after he or she has attained the age of puberty), one sitting on the right and one on the left (to note his or her actions)[] .
18. Not a word does he (or she) utter, but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it).[]
19. And the stupor of death will come in truth: "This is what you have been avoiding!"
20. And the Trumpet will be blown, that will be the Day whereof warning (had been given) (i.e. the Day of Resurrection).
21. And every person will come forth along with an (angel) to drive (him), and an (angel) to bear witness.
22. (It will be said to the sinners): "Indeed you were heedless of this, now We have removed your covering, and sharp is your sight this Day!"
23. And his companion (angel) will say: "Here is (this Record) ready with me!"
24. (And it will be said): "Both of you throw (Order from Allâh to the two angels) into Hell, every stubborn disbeliever (in the Oneness of Allâh, in His Messengers, etc.).
25. "Hinderer of good, transgressor, doubter,
26. "Who set up another ilâh (god) with Allâh, then (both of you) cast him in the severe torment."
27. His companion (Satan devil)] will say: "Our Lord! I did not push him to transgress, (in disbelief, oppression, and evil deeds) but he was himself in error far astray."
28. Allâh will say: "Dispute not in front of Me, I had already, in advance, sent you the threat.
29. The Sentence that comes from Me cannot be changed, and I am not unjust (to the least) to the slaves."
30. On the Day when We will say to Hell: "Are you filled?" It will say: "Are there any more (to come)?"[]
31. And Paradise will be brought near to the Muttaqûn (pious - see V.2:2) not far off.
32. (It will be said): "This is what you were promised, - (it is) for those oft-returning (to Allâh) in sincere repentance, and those who preserve their covenant with Allâh (by obeying Him in all what He has ordered, and worship none but Allâh Alone, i.e. follow Allâh's Religion, Islâmic Monotheism).
33. "Who feared the Most Beneficent (Allâh) in the Ghaib (unseen): (i.e. in this worldly life before seeing and meeting Him), and brought a heart turned in repentance (to Him - and absolutely free from each and every kind of polytheism),
34. "Enter you therein in peace and security; this is a Day of eternal life!"
35. There they will have all that they desire, and We have more (for them, i.e. a glance at the All-Mighty, All-Majestic swt ).
36. And how many a generation We have destroyed before them, who were stronger in power than them, and (when Our Torment came) they ran for a refuge in the land! Could they find any place of refuge (for them to save themselves from destruction)?
37. Verily, therein is indeed a reminder for him who has a heart or gives ear while he is heedful.
38. And indeed We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six Days and nothing of fatigue touched Us.
39. So bear with patience (O Muhammad SAW) all that they say, and glorify the Praises of your Lord, before the rising of the sun and before (its) setting (i.e. the Fajr, Zuhr, and 'Asr prayers)[] .
40. And during a part of the night (also), glorify His praises (i.e. Maghrib and 'Isha prayers), and (so likewise) after the prayers [As-Sunnah, Nawâfil optional and additional prayers, and also glorify, praise and magnify Allâh - Subhân Allâh, Alhamdu lillâh, Allâhu-Akbar].
41. And listen on the Day when the caller will call from a near place,
42. The Day when they will hear As-Saihah (shout, etc.) in truth, that will be the Day of coming out (from the graves i.e. the Day of Resurrection).
43. Verily, We it is Who give life and cause death; and to Us is the final return,
44. On the Day when the earth shall be cleft, from off them, (they will come out) hastening forth. That will be a gathering, quite easy for Us.
45. We know of best what they say; and you (O Muhammad SAW) are not a tyrant over them (to force them to Belief). But warn by the Qur'ân, him who fears My Threat. Quote:
Originally Posted by romansh can we have a debate, a discussion or would you like to examine our ideas and our thoughts on this kind of matter | Quote:
Originally Posted by romansh ? | I am here to share with you some facts. |
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05-11-2008, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah I am here to share with you some facts. | The only 'fact' that I have seen so far is that you have beliefs. Perhaps it would be more accurate for you to say "I am here to share with you my beliefs", as most of us do not consider your holy book to be factual.
And please don't quote long sections of scripture -- It does not add anything to the discussion. How would you like it if I quoted the Voluspa or entire chapters of the Saddharma Pundarika Sutra? |
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05-11-2008, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Astreja In other words, he raped a little girl. A nine-year-old child is not physiologically or psychologically capable of being a "wife", and ten years of age is not adulthood. | Quote: |
this is not your business, she was happy with him.
| if he was interesting in sex, he would do that in the first day of marrige, not after 1 year. Quote:
Originally Posted by Astreja Examine real life to see if what you believe actually makes sense.
. | 1. I became adult when I was 11, and usually girls become adult earlier than boys, and what can I do for you if you still a child till now?
there is no fixed age to become adult (if you don't know) but generally most people become adult at 15, some become adult earlier, and some later.
some people grow up fast, and some need long time. (even the plants)
2. NLP people say: deal with the child in the form that push him to deal like big person.
3. Marrige is a holy relationship, full of mercy and love, but it seems that you don't like this nice relationship.
4. Girls are not like you, beauty tempt them. and Mohammad is the most beautiful person after Joseph peace be upon them, and Mohammad is the most polite and gentle person
5. If you are not physiologically or psychologically capable of being a "wife", then she was, and alot of in4mation regarding our religion, we take from Ayasheh. Quote:
Originally Posted by Astreja We do not know this for sure, and I doubt very much. | such a life in darkness.
see the contradiction
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Originally Posted by Astreja "true life" and "beauty and light" are not the exclusive property of your religion. They are available to all sentient beings, without exception, regardless of what they believe. | |
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05-11-2008, 04:29 AM
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| 11 and 10 year olds are considered to have less mental ability. their not adults. preteens at best.
__________________  remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll |
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05-11-2008, 05:00 AM
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| you are right, but there are some exceptions till now. |
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05-11-2008, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanya Quote:
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah I had some problems, but when I asked Him to help me, they all were solved. | Can you tell us more about this? | ...the class started at 8:00 am, and I used to sleep at 1:30 am and wake up at 4:00 am to pray (we have 5 prayers every day, their time is ordained By Allah glorybe to Him) then I go back to sleep again, and sometimes I miss the class... | Did your professor know this? | sorry Lanya, a jump your question....
the answer is yes,
he said: "this is not my business" | Do you think it possible that he took that into account anyway, without the help of Allah?
Personally, I've had professors who were less strict than they said they would be. For example, my speech professor this past semester wrote in her syllabus (and said out loud) that the date for our speeches was final, once decided (automatic 0 if we didn't show up).
For my final speech, I found out at the last minute that I had to leave campus that day. I sent a quick e-mail to my professor, and she allowed me to speak on another day.
My point is, professors have a tendency to be more lenient than they profess. So it might not have been an act of Allah in your case.
This is just an idea I'm putting out there. For all I know, both your and my cases were acts of Allah.
Regardless, what are your thoughts on this?
__________________ Please take each statement of mine as an assumption only. I don't mean to state anything as a truth. |
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05-11-2008, 04:09 PM
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| we don't control our hearts, it is Allah who controls them, yes?
He puts the mercy in the heart of whom He wills, and He take it out from whom He wills.
will as you wish, If Allah hadn't willed
The only thing you can do is nothing.
If you think good about Allah, then you will find Him there, nay you will find Him much more good than what you think even, but if you think bad, then He is highly exalted above what you think.
Glory be to Him.
Ask Him as much as you can
He is The Rich and owns The Heaven
The good things is in His Holy Hands
Ask Him more and see what happen
You can never hold in a glass
The whole sea, How can that fit in?
Since He is The Most Generous One
It is one of three conditions
Either to give you what you ask
Or prevent a harm from touching you
Or to give you more in Heaven |
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05-11-2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by a slave of Allah we don't control our hearts, it is Allah who controls them, yes? | Unknown if this is true or false. You have not yet proven that your god exists, so in the meantime the best answer to this question is "I don't know." Quote: |
If you think good about Allah, then you will find Him there...
| The same can be said for Vishnu, Athena, Oðinn, Guan Shi Yin, the Morrigan, and all other supernatural beings imagined by humanity. People tend to "find" the gods that they go looking for. (Unfortunately that does not make any god real, as they tend to be experienced only in our minds.)
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