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Old 05-21-2008, 12:44 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Would you ask our christian friends to comment on the actions of the KKK?
Yes I would.
Why? Do you think that christianity is somehow responsible for crazy people? Do you not think that KKK is more of a socio/economic/educational phenomena and that it's expression with christian elements is only due to the culture in which it grew?

Do you somehow think christians responsible for the KKK or muslims for extremism?

Do you also "blame" muslims for algebra, chemistry, astronomy, the numbers that we use, etc? Should they answer for these as well?!

Extremism is not limited to any given social structure.
I'm not asking for them to "answer" for these atrocities, but to comment on them, since they are claiming that islam is not brutal.

And yes, as I already stated, If the KKK committed these atrocities in the name of jesus, I would like to hear a christian's comments about it.

I'm not claiming that islam is responsible for the condition of extremism in general, but if you don't think that islam creates extremists, then you are wrong.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:51 PM   #152 (permalink)
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The problem is not in Islam, the problem is in some little muslims, and in your understanding.

It happens that you sometimes understand something wrongly. yes? (4 everybody).
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:11 PM   #153 (permalink)
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The problem is social/cultural. It existed in the southeast US (and still does) and puts on the mask of Christianity. It exists in the middle east and puts on the mask of Islam. It existed in stalinist russia and put on the mask of atheism. etc..

It's ignorance and unawareness.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:58 PM   #154 (permalink)
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religion itself is very social/cultural, recongising this was part of the reason i rejected my parent's beliefs, they more or less believe it becuse their parents believed it. that seems like one of the reasons for alot of people's beliefs, the're raised to believe them.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:39 AM   #155 (permalink)
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This is the first topic I write here, so I like to begin with the most beautiful word in the world, that is:

(La ilah illaa Allah)

This is the secret of the existence.

for this word you are created, and for this word there are Heaven and Hell, and according to this word you will be judged,
so if you satisfy this word you will go to Paradise, but if you refuse this truth you will go to Hell.
For this greatest truth God glory be to Him send the prophets peace be upon them.

Part of the people says that there is no God
And part of the people says that there are many gods
And we say that: there is only One God, no god but He.

so Quickly come to The Most Generous One
So that you will be forgiven

Ask Him as much as you can
He is The Rich and owns The Heaven

The good things is in His Holy Hands
Ask Him more and see what happen

You can never hold in a glass
The whole sea, How can that fit in?

and because of the Greatness of God
He is above what you think and imagine

There is no comparable unto Him
The Most High, The All Rich, Oft forgiving

The King, The Holy, The Mighty as well
you usually loose, but He always wins


The Gracious, The Peace, The All Powerful
The Wise, The light of Earth and Heavens

The Guider, The Judge, The Truth and The Just
His word pushes the dead to listen

The Noble, The Lord, The Glorious and The Firm
The first, The Last, The Evident and The Hidden


The Giver of life, The taker of life
Every thing dies, but He The Living


The nature does not create, but God
He said Be so see what happened

Jesus peace be upon him was
This is a sign for you and Jinn

Also the fire was cold, and peace
When Abraham, was thrown therein

Since He is The Most Generous One
It is one of three conditions

Either to give you what you ask
Or prevent a harm from touching you
Or to give you more in Heaven

Finally, I would like to thank the prophet who invites us to God and His grace:

Mohammad is gentle, Mohammad is light
Mohammad (the prophet) was very polite

Mohammad was telling only truth
Mohammad is honest, Mohammad is right

Peace be upon you O Mohammad
During the day, and during the night


Don't drink the Kool-Aid.

Ooops... too late.
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