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Wow! that is a big ask.

There is so much to it.

Can you be more specific?

Thanks

romansh

just curious about your interpretation about "the fall of man".

just a general gist will be fine ... 6 lines or there abouts
thanks

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Adam disobeyed God's commandment and all men were cursed with death because of that. (Rom. 5:12) KJV

Adam did this all by himself and the claim that the Serpent deceived Adam is false. (1 Tim. 2:14) KJV

The relationship between the Serpent and Eve is superfluous to Adam's decision. (Mark 7:21 - 23) KJV

This Chapter is extremely involved and extremely important to overall Biblical understanding.

The FIRST liar (John 8:44) KJV was Adam and Adam was a Satan (ADVERSARY) and a Devil (FALSE ACCUSER). (I would need to expand on this but I can prove it.)

The Serpent Creature spoke by itself, and never lied, but told it as it carnally understood / perceived it to be.

We know this is true because a) God said so: - And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this . . . (Gen. 3:14) KJV and punished it accordingly, not for lying, but by its carnal reasoning, contradicted what God had said i.e. . . . thou shalt surely die. (Gen. 2:17) KJV

e.g. It could have seen angels eat and not die, it could have eaten itself. Hypothesis' I agree.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter in relationship to Adam (1 Tim. 2:14) KJV

Cheers!

romansh

thanks Composer

not exactly what I meant to ask for
I would agree it is an important chapter so to speak.

So what should the reader take away from this?

A singular being called Adam disobeyed god and was the first liar.
Adam and Eve are punished for this.

and ...???

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The fundamental Biblical principle and purpose of God's Son and Messenger Christ is presented.

Adam disobeyed God and died.

Christ obeyed God and was granted immortality.

Conclusion, Follow Adam's example and die, follow Christ's example and be rewarded as was he and live forever.

The REAL Satan (ADVERSARY) of the Bible is man's disobedience.

Regards

romansh

hmmnn
thanks composer
I have to admit ... a little disappointing for me.
I was hoping for something a less traditional.

thanks again

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I regret you haven't understood what I wrote.

This is far from traditional.

e.g. Most claim the Serpent can't speak and a naughty angel made it speak?

Most claim the serpent deceived Adam and caused him to fall?

Most claim that their naughty angel was the first liar. etc. etc

Cheers!

Abel

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I cannot believe you could say the KJV has the word "Adversary" in the portion of scripture you quoted, and then turn around and admit that you added it yourself: "I have inserted {Satan : Heb. the adversary} as appropriate."

Again, according to the Webster's 1828 Dictionary, "signify" means to make known:

SIG'NIFY, v. t. L. significo; signum, a sign, and facio, to make.
1. To make known something, either by signs or words; to express or communicate to another any idea, thought, wish, a hod, wink, gesture, signal or other sign.

In the Greek: Strong's Greek Dictionary
4591. semaino
shmainw semaino say-mah'-ee-no
from sema (a mark; of uncertain derivation); to indicate:--signify.

If you cannot believe in a literal Satan, how can you believe in a literal Hell? If you cannot believe in a literal Satan or Hell why believe in a literal Saviour? If you cannot believe in a literal Saviour, how can you believe in a literal Heaven? If there is no literal Heaven, there is literally no reason for hope!

You have proven nothing to me, other than I believe you have a warped interpretation of the Bible. I do not know where you were taught what you believe, or if you invented this yourself. I'm not going to keep arguing with you over this. Let's just agree to disagree.

duck

Now you see where most of us come from!!!! w00t!!!

Except the hope part, we place hope on the temporal existence we have in the here and now. There is no immortality. That is only a Fool's Hope.

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romansh

you are right the nuances are non traditional .... but that is all
thanks again

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