xexon

Religion is based upon one's ability to see into the spiritual realms.

The less you can see, the more you need a seeing eye dog named religion. It provides a structure until you can build one of your own.

The more you can see, the less need for someone else's opinion of it. The religious and those who can actually see will always be at odds. Scripture is braille for the spiritually blind.

A spiritually mature person is one who has regained their sight.

They no longer need braille.


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shadowind

I like that man

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remember "for mere impulse of appetite is slavery, while obedience to a law which we prescirbe to oursleves is liberty"-rousseau: the concept of the general will "if we can not reconcile all opions, then let us endeavour to unite all hearts."-?"to be is to be perceived"-? "‘We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know’-Robert G. Ingersoll

Og

Amen. When you get to that yonder shore, you don't pick up the boat and carry it on your back

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You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
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AB517

This is very good.

So this means religion is very important today.

The only problem I see is that some people "KNOW" they can see but they have no eyes.
I see it here, and else where a lot. I fall pray to it myself. This statement is like giving a loaded gun to a first grader, fundamental atheist, or fundamental theist. Some get out of the boat in 20 feet of water, in a storm, and can’t swim.

But … It is very good.

Can I steal it from you?

debdodd

Wow! I admire the way you break things down ..... a sincere thanks! Deb

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

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debdodd

You also deserve kudos for your wise words ... thanks for contributing to forum ....

Between you and PsiCop ... great writings on this thread !!!

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"Ubi dubium ibi libertas."

"We are all lone souls. It pays to know humility, lest the delusion of control, of mastery, overwhelms. And indeed, we seem a species prone to that delusion, again and ever again ....."

Abel

PsiCop
I cannot fatham how you can accuse me of selective interpretation of the Bible. I take all scripture into consideration. I do not ignore anything. I acknowledge every verse and place it in it's proper context.

Now, if you want to talk about taking away from God's Word, you have only to look at the translation you refered to -- NASB. You are correct that this (per)version does not use the name Lucifer. It uses the name "Star of the Morning". The cross reference then refers you to 2 Pet.1:19 and Rev.22:16. Both of these passages speak of Jesus. So your bible basically says that Jesus and "Lucifer" are the same person.

Actually the NASB contridicts even simple Sunday School lessons taught to children. For example, everyone knows the story of David and Goliath. However, if they read your bible, David didn't kill Goliath. Some ol' boy named Elhanan did. Look it up in your NASB -- 2 Sam.21:19.

Your bible even recognized it's own lies. Read Mark 1:2, then try to find "Behold. I send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way" in the book of Isaiah. It isn't there as your bible says it is. Look at the footnote and you will find that the NASB admits this portion of scripture is found in Malachi 3:1.

Your bible suggests verses such as Matt.18:11, Mark 11:26, and Acts 8:37 should not even be included. Notice how these verses are bracketed along with notes implying these verses should be omitted in your bible.

It is no wonder that you can't handle Biblical truthes. You don't study Biblical truthes. Your bible contradicts itself, lies, and cast doubt on the Word of God. Looks to me as if your bible is more like the word of "Lucifer" instead of the perfect, infallible Word of God.

buzz2

These are VERY GOOD! I never looked at it quite that way before. Does this mean: I didn't really KNOW. I only thought I knew? Maybe interpret as a feeling of knowing? Very interesting. Heck, I don't even know if I get THIS!!
Something to ponder over. Thanx, Rick

Abel

You speak of seeing into the spiritual realm. You are speaking of things you have no idea about. Spiritually, most people are blind as a bat. 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." Satan blinds non-believers with philosophy, false religion, and anything they are willing to put in front of themselves.

Most folks are willfully blind. Light is presented to them, but they perfer to remain in darkness -- John 3:19 "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

True spiritual sight comes from Christ -- John 9:39 "And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind."

You cannot have spiritual sight until you first have spiritual life. John 3:6 -- "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." This spiritual life also comes from Christ -- Romans 8:10 "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." John 10:10 ... "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

All you offer is hollow words with a philosophical twist, taken from a dictionary or thesaurus in order to impress. Nothing of substance, hence fulfilling scripture Romans 1:21-22 "Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"

duck

And all of this means, what? The bible is just a book. Abel, you are an impressive scholar of this book, but I am also an impressive scholar of the works of JRR Tolkien.

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