scientific_one

I am trying to get a feel for where people go that haven't been exposed to a religious text.

If I haven't heard the word of God, do I go to Hell by default, or am I saved by grace?

If I go to Hell for not having heard the gospel, then I believe this paints a picture of our creator as one who abandons its creations, and is ultimately cruel.

If I go to Heaven by default for not having heard the gospel, then I believe that everyone should stop spreading the word. Because this implies that you only go to Hell if you've heard the word and then sinned. If you never hear the word, then you don't know what sin is, and therefore cannot be held accountable.

Thoughts?

romansh

Too many "ifs" to give a sensible reply

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Danlo

Cruel according to whose standards? Surely God could do what he/she wanted....?

Skepticologist

You're absolutely right. God could either be the all-loving creator who wants all humans, whom he created in his image, to spend eternity with him in paradise, or the vengeful SOB who damns them to eternity in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth because he created them with the overwhelming propensity to disobey him.

But he can't be both.

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AB517

IF it ok to ask you a question?

Whos God are you trying to understand? the one for them or the one for you?

GX

Your question, in and of itself, is the main reason that makes religious interpretations of God and the universe make no sense whatsoever. It is the engine that drives the agnostic, atheistic and the non-religious spiritual movements. Hell is a figment of the theistically minded imagination created by the institution of religion in order to keep people dependent on and enslaved to that particular religious institution.

Your question however is a great question that is better suited to the relgious minded individuals that would hopefully shake them out of their religiously indoctrinated slumber and make them think.

rstrats

romansh,

re: “Too many ‘ifs’ to give a sensible reply.”


So then your reply in post #2 is not sensible?

romansh

are any of my posts sensible? why just pick on this one?

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AB517

prashantkochar1

By default there is no heaven or hell on this earth. Heaven or hell depend on our karmas or actions. Actions are of two types- good or bad. Good actions like- honesty, truth, compassion etc. bad karmas are violence, cheating, jealous, anger etc. You remember God or not but if your karmas are good, because of these karmas your heart will be pure. There are four things that are not in our control- birth-death, joy-sorrow, loss-gain, meeting -seperation. Apart from these four things, we make our destiny. This proves that your heaven is also in your control.

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