Geshtinnanna

I am getting sick and tired of every other person using this phrase. Both sides of your retarded arguement of Pro/Con Christian/Non keep using this word. This makes both sides complete asses.

Also please judge a person as they are and not who they belong to. Before you know it you are going to be one of 'those people' and someone is going to be judging you on your entire lot. And woudn't that be a shame.

If you wonder why no members come here you should think about how you all welcome new members. It's disgusting and moronic. I personally don't even want to invite anyone I know here. Their different opinions would be welcomed with all this childish nonsense. Shame on all of you.All of you look like chimps flinging poo at each other saying how the other stinks. All of you stink.

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El_Mariachi64

in case mine gets lost in the shuffle, i'll double post, i think this is important.

okay, so plenty of people have answered why they cannot believe as you do.

But let me ask you, why are you born again christian?

More specifically, why aren't you a regular baptist, catholic or calvinist?

WilliamBlue

I believe that is exactly what godlovesyou did with his opening post, which I thought was condescending at the least;
I believe that he thinks that agnostics are fence sitters and that he may be able to knock a few of us off with some well placed bible quotes... but maybe thats just me.

Ouch , wow, you really take all this to heart, didn't know that satanist were so thin skinned , ok, maybe I did prejudge him a little (my prejudice is showing ) and I vented a little(a lot?), if I was wrong I will apologize to godlovesyou if he will answer these.

godlovesyou, how old are you? (Just curious)

How do you feel about giving free condoms to people?

What do you think about giving young girls a vaccine that will prevent a common sexually transmitted disease?

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How can we be so arrogant and egotistical to believe that the whole Universe was created just for us?
Anger is like you drinking poison and hoping your enemy will die.

WilliamBlue

Geez, who would of thought that I would piss-off a satanist by picking on a born-again evangelical, what is this world coming to?

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When you dance with an elephant it's up to you to not get stepped on.
How can we be so arrogant and egotistical to believe that the whole Universe was created just for us?
Anger is like you drinking poison and hoping your enemy will die.

romansh

Gesh ....as much as I agree with you, I think you are being harsh on us mere and fallible mortals. All of us have our weaknesses and prejudices.

all the best

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romansh

I did not read godsloveyou post that way, and even if I did, I should be not condescending in return. I just hope that I don't come across that way?

If gly had read even just a few of the posts he would realize we are not fence sitters. By and large we are passionate in our beliefs. I suspect he has come here to test his faith; stepped into the lions' den and with god's help he may bag a couple of lions aswell? But we could speculate for a while.
Lets ask gly?

godlovesyou: exactly why did you join this forum and what did you expect or (hope) to happen? I'm asking you to look deep inside your feelings and to answer very, very honestly?

If anyone's interested why I'm here.... I wanted to write a short dissertation on my devout agnostic beliefs; when I started, I realized I knew bugger all about agnosticm. After a little bit of internet searching I ended up here. So I'm here to learn, mainly by asking questions.

all the best

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greywolf90

i was wondering if you could explain satanism to me. it's probably because of my christian past, but I think of satanists as "lets rebel against society by doing stuff they dont want us to do" (i hope you prove me wrong in this). i was also wondering why you chose satanism. my main question is if the existance of god cannot be proven, why believe that satan exists?

p.s. i agree that this should be a forum without prejudice or intolerance of other beliefs.

p.p.s. i'd like to apoligize again for my posts on suicide. i didn't try to understand the person who commits suicide. i only thought about the act itself.

Geshtinnanna

No problem. There are really two kinds of Satanism.
Traditional Satanism: They believe in Satan as an actual being etc.
Modern Satanism: We are our own God. Essentially Atheists.
The kind I follow you can read about here
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/

Hell lots of people are like that. I do what I want to do. I weight the balance of what I want to do and the consequence, if any, I want to pay.

I was raised a Catholic. But from a very young age I realized I was different from my family. If Christians are born with a belief gene, mine was mia. I never have believed in God. I went researching to see what exactly I did believe. I dabbled in all sorts of things before coming to Satanism. I realized that I didn't have to change my beliefs or bend to follow this belief system. I also made sure that I was going toward me and not running away from something. I didn't leave a Christian faith out of anger of some God doing me wrong. I left because it was not what I believed.
Modern Laveyan Satanists are mostly Atheists. So we have no belief in any sort of deity. We simply use Satan to represent what we want to attain.

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wuzupbling22

Didn't you also invade The Church of Google forum?

godlovesyou

no, not because. Should God not aloud good things to happen, because people decided to live without him, and will suffer consequences because of their desobeiying ? so the good should not happen because of the bad ?

God creates not in function of what men might do or not do, but because of his love. Humanity decide to live without god, and as consequence will go to hell. god is not responsable for YOUR decision, and will not let to do something because men decided to desobey him. Our ancester did decide to desobey God, and naturally all descendence is on the road to hell. Each one of us naturally decides to sin, and is fully accountable for the own decisions. so in last instance, its not God to be held responsable if someone goes to hell, but the sinner, which decided to do, what deserves hell. But, thanks God, he provided a escape, that is : Jesus paid at the cross for all sins of humanity, also for your sins. If you accept that he paid also for your sins, you can recieve forgiveness and eternal life.

absolutely wrong. he created us, to bless us, and give us a fullfilled live here on earth, and eternal live. But to recieve this, you must believe in God, and , as consequence, follow him.

God will judge with justice, also who never heard the gospel.

men in last instance is to be held accountable for all suffering in the world, not god.
the devil will be distructed when the right time comes. God has his methods to do things, and the devil is in last instance doint God's will.