Discovering Christ

lets just say, what if your wrong and there is a God and because you don't believe in Him you go to hell? ... please don't be like most people who try to be cool and say, "I'll be glad to go you hell." when really Hell sucks. and No one really wants to go there.

Thanks, DC

hell_raiser195

1. Supossedly it has been proven that Jesus was real, but the idea that people were cured by his touch has never been proven.
2. People have given their lives for less.
3. Jesus could have been nothing more than a political activist, who had strong beliefs about love etc, (sounds like a glorified hippie)
4. Religion was around long before Jesus and people had been giving their lives and the lives of others for over 400 hundred gods, what he did was no different to what any other overly religious person of the time

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Discovering Christ

So would you give your life for a lie?

duck

Many people in history have been deluded into believing things that weren't true.

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hell_raiser195

It depends, if i thought that lie was going to make life better for everyone else and I truly believed that to that extent, yes. Or i would, if i personally believed that to lie to be true

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Skepticologist

How many times have I been regaled with such a convoluted appeal by members of my fundamentalist christian family, most of whom also happen to be republicans?

Is it any wonder that people who would seriously suggest that, just because there might be a god and there might be a hell I should start believing in them, would also suggest that just because Iran might be developing a nuclear weapon that might fall into terrorist hands, we should get into another futile preemptive war?

The really tragic thing about playing the fear card is that it actually works so often.

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Discovering Christ

The only reason why you guys refuse to take heed to anything me or Godlovesyou is because you guys our lost in the world and lost in your sin.

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AB517

God speaks to us in many ways.
One way to find God is through Faith.
But think of the word you use here "only'

Others, like myself, he will speak to us through the physical laws of the universe he created. He will show us his existence through the elegance of his creation. He is not hiding.

Why would it be wrong to think this way?

AB517

I heed yaz.
We are trying to match what you say with observations of the world around us.

This is a crazy thought so just play along. Just to let ya know I am Roman Catholic.

I believe in the devil.
Could one tactic the devil uses to lead me away from Christ be to use the bible as literal? To try and cleverly convince me that all that I see and know is wrong?
For example evolution.

Could he say that the laws of the universe are wrong?
Could the devil say “God does not what you to know him fully?”
Fully here may mean that God HAD to make the universe this way.
Remember that omni-stuff are of men; not God.
Kinda sounds like that snake to me.


God is not hiding. He is not afraid of the truth.
Math and science are his as well as what is our hearts.
Only the devil is afraid of the light.

Only the devil fears the mind loving the heart as much as the heart loving the mind. The devil sees this as the end of his rain here on Earth.

When the mind and heart join fully, this is the last judgment.
In the light of the truth how will you choose?
God does nothing more than await you.

We are all wandering people, that why we have gathered here.
Lets us all help each other.
I need all of you to help me.

duck

Now that is original.



But, Great Zot, it is funny!!!

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