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Old 08-07-2007, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Assault on identity

Assault on identity: You are not who you think you are.
This is a systematic attack on a target's sense of self (also called his identity or ego) and his core belief system. The agent denies everything that makes the target who he is: "You are not a soldier." "You are not a man." "You are not defending freedom." The target is under constant attack for days, weeks or months, to the point that he becomes exhausted, confused and disoriented. In this state, his beliefs seem less solid.

Guilt

Guilt: You are bad.
While the identity crisis is setting in, the agent is simultaneously creating an overwhelming sense of guilt in the target. He repeatedly and mercilessly attacks the subject for any "sin" the target has committed, large or small. He may criticize the target for everything from the "evilness" of his beliefs to the way he eats too slowly. The target begins to feel a general sense of shame, that everything he does is wrong.

Self-betrayal

Self-betrayal: Agree with me that you are bad.
Once the subject is disoriented and drowning in guilt, the agent forces him (either with the threat of physical harm or of continuance of the mental attack) to denounce his family, friends and peers who share the same "wrong" belief system that he holds. This betrayal of his own beliefs and of people he feels a sense of loyalty to increases the shame and loss of identity the target is already experiencing.

Breaking point

Breaking point: Who am I, where am I and what am I supposed to do?
With his identity in crisis, experiencing deep shame and having betrayed what he has always believed in, the target may undergo what in the lay community is referred to as a "nervous breakdown." In psychology, "nervous breakdown" is really just a collection of severe symptoms that can indicate any number of psychological disturbances. It may involve uncontrollable sobbing, deep depression and general disorientation. The target may have lost his grip on reality and have the feeling of being completely lost and alone.

When the target reaches his breaking point, his sense of self is pretty much up for grabs -- he has no clear understanding of who he is or what is happening to him. At this point, the agent sets up the temptation to convert to another belief system that will save the target from his misery.

Leniency

Leniency: I can help you.
With the target in a state of crisis, the agent offers some small kindness or reprieve from the abuse. He may offer the target a drink of water, or take a moment to ask the target what he misses about home. In a state of breakdown resulting from an endless psychological attack, the small kindness seems huge, and the target may experience a sense of relief and gratitude completely out of proportion to the offering, as if the agent has saved his life.

Compulsion to confess

Compulsion to confession: You can help yourself.
For the first time in the brainwashing process, the target is faced with the contrast between the guilt and pain of identity assault and the sudden relief of leniency. The target may feel a desire to reciprocate the kindness offered to him, and at this point, the agent may present the possibility of confession as a means to relieving guilt and pain.

Channeling of guilt

Channeling of guilt: This is why you're in pain.
After weeks or months of assault, confusion, breakdown and moments of leniency, the target's guilt has lost all meaning -- he's not sure what he has done wrong, he just knows he is wrong. This creates something of a blank slate that lets the agent fill in the blanks: He can attach that guilt, that sense of "wrongness, " to whatever he wants. The agent attaches the target's guilt to the belief system the agent is trying to replace. The target comes to believe it is his belief system that is the cause of his shame. The contrast between old and new has been established: The old belief system is associated with psychological (and usually physical) agony; and the new belief system is associated with the possibility of escaping that agony.

Releasing of guilt

Releasing of guilt: It's not me; it's my beliefs.
The embattled target is relieved to learn there is an external cause of his wrongness, that it is not he himself that is inescapably bad -- this means he can escape his wrongness by escaping the wrong belief system. All he has to do is denounce the people and institutions associated with that belief system, and he won't be in pain anymore. The target has the power to release himself from wrongness by confessing to acts associated with his old belief system.
With his full confessions, the target has completed his psychological rejection of his former identity. It is now up to the agent to offer the target a new one.


Progress and harmony

Progress and harmony: If you want, you can choose good.
The agent introduces a new belief system as the path to "good." At this stage, the agent stops the abuse, offering the target physical comfort and mental calm in conjunction with the new belief system. The target is made to feel that it is he who must choose between old and new, giving the target the sense that his fate is in his own hands. The target has already denounced his old belief system in response to leniency and torment, and making a "conscious choice" in favor of the contrasting belief system helps to further relieve his guilt: If he truly believes, then he really didn't betray anyone. The choice is not a difficult one: The new identity is safe and desirable because it is nothing like the one that led to his breakdown.

Final confession and rebirth

Final confession and rebirth: I choose good.
Contrasting the agony of the old with the peacefulness of the new, the target chooses the new identity, clinging to it like a life preserver. He rejects his old belief system and pledges allegiance to the new one that is going to make his life better. At this final stage, there are often rituals or ceremonies to induct the converted target into his new community. This stage has been described by some brainwashing victims as a feeling of "rebirth."


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Assault on identity
Children dont really have an identity yet

Guilt
"You are a sinful person who betrayed God"

Self-betrayal
"Yes I am a sinful person"

Breaking point
"I need jesus to forgive the sins i am guilty of"

Leniency
"jesus can forgive ANYTHING just accept him"

Compulsion to confess
"All you need to do is confess your sins to jesus and he shall forgive them all"

Channeling of guilt
"You are or will be in pain because of your sins!"

Releasing of guilt
"I am not a bad person, we all sin, I just need to accept jesus as my saviour"

Progress and harmony
"If i chose jesus, I will not burn"

Final confession and rebirth
"Born again Christian"
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Good outline, SDSJap.

I think the point of no return is "Self-Betrayal." Once that particular threshold has been crossed, the victim of brainwashing has handed over the bulk of his power to the agent and is essentially at the agent's mercy. The subsequent steps are merely consolidation of that power in the controller's hands, followed by the establishment of a new worldview.

In my opinion, the great irony of all this is that the brainwashing process clearly demonstrates where the power lies.

With the individual. Not with his religion.

Which is why the various belief systems of this world try so very hard to recruit new members... Humans, not gods, are the true source of their power.
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Humans, not gods, are the true source of their power.
Ding ding! We have a winner! Most religions at their core have the same beliefs, but most will try to convince you that you're damned for all eternity if you don't join their particular flock. They only have that kind of power to make those statements if they have a large congregation behind them to back them up. Otherwise they're nothing but the crazed prophet on the street corner.
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The real brain washing begins as soon as a child starts to comunicate with its peers. People of religious faith will not actually use the word faith very often. the word Faith is usually substituted for the word Truth or stated as knowledge.
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^^^Or even stated as sharing the "Good News."

The idea that we are all sinners and need to seek salvation and forgiveness is one of the areas of christianity that really irks me.
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You're not the only one! and when it's defended like it's a good thing.
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^^^Or even stated as sharing the "Good News."

The idea that we are all sinners and need to seek salvation and forgiveness is one of the areas of christianity that really irks me.
Thats my favorite I can remember... the "Good News". I cringe everytime I remember hearing this from religious fools.
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Assault on identity
Children dont really have an identity yet

Guilt
"You are a sinful person who betrayed God"

Self-betrayal
"Yes I am a sinful person"

Breaking point
"I need jesus to forgive the sins i am guilty of"

Leniency
"jesus can forgive ANYTHING just accept him"

Compulsion to confess
"All you need to do is confess your sins to jesus and he shall forgive them all"

Channeling of guilt
"You are or will be in pain because of your sins!"

Releasing of guilt
"I am not a bad person, we all sin, I just need to accept jesus as my saviour"

Progress and harmony
"If i chose jesus, I will not burn"

Final confession and rebirth
"Born again Christian"
Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
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It was YOU who broke into the vatican and stole the top secret priest training handbook!
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