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through massive inbreeding a tribe in Africa called the vadoma have increased both the rates(from 1 in 950,000 in normal humans to 1 in 4 in the vadoma) and the severity of ectrodactyly. the strange feet help the vadoma climb trees to get the fruit from the tops

ladies and gentlemen, i give you evolution

jaej

Dude, that guy's feet look freaking awesome. But you'd think they'd be the opposite, with the shorter side on the inside....oh well, that's nuts.

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GI

That's MICRO evolution and soes not begin to explain how humans arose or indeed how life emerged at all on planet earth, please acknowledge this fact.

Jayhawker Soule

Of course. Now, would you mind explaining to us what mechanism delimits the cumulative effects of so-called "MICRO [sic!] evolution" over a period of millions of years?

Og

Sounds like GI is a broken record on this topic. Or else he's just ignoring the facts of genetic homology. GI, have you ever sequenced DNA yourself? Have you ever taken a course in molecular genetics or even read a textbook on the topic? How about journal articles from the field of genetics and development or ecology and evolutionary biology?

You just make these flat out statements that sweep away all of the work of modern scientists (in your mind) and yet provide no substance behind your claim.

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GI

So you admit that is micro evolution, good, there's a start. I think really since evolution by natural selection and random mutation has now strangely become accepted dogma in the scientific world despite no evidence anywhere, it 's not down to me to explain how it doesn't work but rather up to yourself with your 'fact' to explain and please convince us of how life emerged (DNA and living cell), how reptiles turned in to birds and maybe give me one example of a evolutionary process that has shown to add information to a genome. It's a postulate, a hypothesis that you have that you call 'fact', as an agnostic don't be afraid to question this dogma that has been fed to us all, the science world now has lots and lots of questions that cannot be answered by biology or that Bible thing...let's keep our minds open as agnostics. Darwinism is NOT a fact, it's proving to be a rather weak hypothesis as research continues. I'm not disputing human evolution but do please tell me where classes and order 'merge' and please don't say 'they just do...it's over infinate time'..that's wearing thin now.

Tomasz

Propagating information that evolution is some weak hypothesis not very likely to proved is educational disgrace

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GI

Oooh dear this does seem to be ‘touchy’ with some of you, is this challenging your dogma? Yes, I have read many text books on the subject, I'm reading the ridiculous 'Blind Watchmaker' at present where Dawkins tries to explain natural selection with a computer program on limited date with a pre-defined goal, saving useful results and ignoring lethal mutations etc. But, hey, for your information I'm not ignoring anything, YOU are the one making flat out claims that I am merely disputing for lack of evidence, YOU have no substance to your claims at all…………I'm waiting for explanations rather than insults from people obviously fear the prospect that Darwinism doesn't work as an explanation for the pattern of life. Rather than ask me questions about what I have studied etc as though that is the only qualification one can attain to understand this dogma, why don't you simply answer just one of my questions? Give me one example of Darwinism satisfying the questions on the broader claims of homology, origin of life, intermediates etc.

GI

Exactly, it is not a fact and disgracefully gets taught as one. Are you telling me that everything taught is fact?

GI

"I cannot possibly believe," wrote Darwin in 1868, "that a false theory would explain so many classes of facts."

Natural Selection selects, it doesn't create!

"a cell as a “simple little lump of albuminous combination of carbon,” - wrot a an ignornt Ernst Haeckel, a nineteenth century German fan of Darwin’s. That was before reserach in molecular biology.

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