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sisterX · 07-10-2007, 04:49 PM

Og english is a very advanced language, ancient hebrew was not. The same word 'yom' or 'yawm' is used to say 'day', 'span','age' etc. The same word is used in the bible when talking about days, weeks, months and years. There are many examples in the bible and quran where this word is used in this way. Its a shame some christians think it means days even when science proves them wrong.

Og · 07-10-2007, 06:04 PM

Why did god give his chosen people such an inefficient language?

Tango · 07-10-2007, 06:05 PM

how do you know which 'yom' means what? sounds awfully sketchy to me

SDSJap · 07-10-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sisterX

Og english is a very advanced language, ancient hebrew was not. The same word 'yom' or 'yawm' is used to say 'day', 'span','age' etc. The same word is used in the bible when talking about days, weeks, months and years. There are many examples in the bible and quran where this word is used in this way. Its a shame some christians think it means days even when science proves them wrong.

examples? if you provide the verses ill look up the original hebrew

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http://biblicalstudies.qldwide.net.a...s_of_gen1.html

some reasons from another christian why saying yom means age doesnt make sense

sisterX · 07-11-2007, 03:06 PM

SDSJap I think we posted at exactly the same time! I was replying to Og's post but here is something alexie posted about the 7 day thing. I hope he doesnt mind me using his examples since he knows more about the bible than I do.

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Hi Sister x

Correct! Yom is used in a wide variety of situations related to the concept of time. Yom is not just for days...it is for time in general. How it is translated depends on the context of its use with other words.

Even within the creation account, Yom is used to represent four different time periods.
1. Genesis 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night." Here, Moses uses Yom to indicate a 12-hour period
2. Genesis 1:14 "And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years." Here, Moses uses Yom to indicate 24-hour days
3. Genesis 2:4 "...in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." Here, Moses uses Yom to indicate the entire creative week.
The fourth usage of Yom in the creation account is in the summary for each of the six creation days, "and there was morning and evening the first day". Yom is used to represent a finite, long period of time, usually either millions or billions of years. To show support for this, consider the uses of Yom by Moses.

Moses, the author of the first five books of the Bible, and of Psalm 90, used Yom in many different ways.
1. Genesis 4:3 "And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord." In this instance, Yom refers to a growing season, probably several months.
2. Genesis 43:9 "...then let me bear the blame for ever." Here, Moses uses Yom to represent eternity
3. Genesis 44:32 "...then I shall bear the blame to my father for ever." Again, Moses uses Yom to represent eternity
4. Deuteronomy 4:40 "...that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the Lord thy God giveth the, for ever." Here Yom represents a physical lifetime
5. Deuteronomy 10:10, "Now I stayed on the mountain forty days and nights, as I did the first time,..." Here, Yom is a "time" equal to forty days.
6. Deuteronomy 18:5 "...to stand to minister in the name of the Lord, him and his sons for ever." Again, Yom is translated as eternity
7. Deuteronomy 19:9 "...to love the Lord thy God, and to walk ever in His ways..." Here, Yom represents a lifetime. As long as we live we are to walk in his ways

As you can see, Moses used the word Yom to represent 12-hours, 24 hours, the creative week, forty days, several months, a lifetime, and eternity

SDSJap · 07-11-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sisterX

SDSJap I think we posted at exactly the same time! I was replying to Og's post but here is something alexie posted about the 7 day thing. I hope he doesnt mind me using his examples since he knows more about the bible than I do.

Quote:

Hi Sister x

Correct! Yom is used in a wide variety of situations related to the concept of time. Yom is not just for days...it is for time in general. How it is translated depends on the context of its use with other words.

Even within the creation account, Yom is used to represent four different time periods.
1. Genesis 1:5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night." Here, Moses uses Yom to indicate a 12-hour period

so god made the heavens in 3.5 days youre only going backwards here. either way its a differant word in hebrew, poor translation at best.
2. Genesis 1:14 "And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years." Here, Moses uses Yom to indicate 24-hour days

3. Genesis 2:4 "...in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." Here, Moses uses Yom to indicate the entire creative week.
The fourth usage of Yom in the creation account is in the summary for each of the six creation days, "and there was morning and evening the first day". Yom is used to represent a finite, long period of time, usually either millions or billions of years. To show support for this, consider the uses of Yom by Moses.

again differant hebrew word yown not yom

Moses, the author of the first five books of the Bible, and of Psalm 90, used Yom in many different ways.
1. Genesis 4:3 "And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord." In this instance, Yom refers to a growing season, probably several months.
2. Genesis 43:9 "...then let me bear the blame for ever." Here, Moses uses Yom to represent eternity
3. Genesis 44:32 "...then I shall bear the blame to my father for ever." Again, Moses uses Yom to represent eternity
4. Deuteronomy 4:40 "...that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the Lord thy God giveth the, for ever." Here Yom represents a physical lifetime
5. Deuteronomy 10:10, "Now I stayed on the mountain forty days and nights, as I did the first time,..." Here, Yom is a "time" equal to forty days.
6. Deuteronomy 18:5 "...to stand to minister in the name of the Lord, him and his sons for ever." Again, Yom is translated as eternity
7. Deuteronomy 19:9 "...to love the Lord thy God, and to walk ever in His ways..." Here, Yom represents a lifetime. As long as we live we are to walk in his ways

As you can see, Moses used the word Yom to represent 12-hours, 24 hours, the creative week, forty days, several months, a lifetime, and eternity

Im not even going to bother looking the others up when the first two are cases of someone reading a poorly translated english version of the bible.

besides, God himself linked the days of creations with the nortmal human 24 hour day when he said work 6 DAYS and rest on the 7th DAY because I created the earth in 6 DAYS and rested on the 7th DAY