debdodd

Bodhitharta

Consider it helping out a buddy, come on, please tell me about the sexual evolution of the gnat. I really would appreciate it. I mean these little insects have all sorts of highly developed mechanisms and I'm just asking how their sexual reproductive organs evolved.

debdodd

doesn't tuition at Cornell cost in excess of $30,000 a year .... so far how much does he owe you for the private tutoring? I guess you could write some of it off as research expense LOL

Bodhitharta

I'll give him $30,000 dollars if he can explain it of course that would pale in comparison to the money he would make off of being able to explain what the leading scientist cannot explain(they can't even explain the mystery of why insects have wings i.e. how did they evolve wings) right, Og?

Og

If you're not willing to learn some molecular biology and demonstrate a better understanding of selection and genetics and the construction of organs and how the same chemical kind of chemical queues that cause the anti-coagulant to work also produce organismal sexual differences and organ tissue differentiation, then PM me and we can work out some special tutoring at a fee.

Until you're willing to demonstrate a knowledge of the molecular biology going on in these systems, you're just going to continue to blast away with your thick headed rejection of things you know nothing about.

When I say that male and females exist in a population in the same way that organs and cells exist in your body, you don't understand.

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Og

No Bodhitharta,

There is quite a great deal known about how these structures are constructed. It comes from an intimate knowledge of the processes that lead to their construction as we see them today.

You don't know the first thing about what "leading scientists" can or cannot explain. This is obvious from your cavalier use of silly examples to "disprove" evolution in your mind.

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Bodhitharta

Okay then, I'll PM you and set up a fee schedule to pay you for this much sought after knowledge but I want a money back guarantee. I don't think you'll get to keep my money though because you don't have the information.

Og

1) We know how these structures are created in current systems. (this is where genetics and development speaks).

2) We have a are number of examples of variations of these structures (like wings) in many creatures that have adapted the structure to a variety of situations (e.g. dragonfly wings vs fruit fly wings vs bee wings). (This is where zoology and entomology come in.)

3) We also have a good understanding of selective pressures applied to the system in the wild (this is where ecology and evolutionary biology come in)

4) We have a deep understanding of the genetic nature of the organism and the mutation rate and the population sizes given evolutionary time scales.

If you want a detailed account of the exact organism to organism mutation on a base pair level no one will ever be able to give that to you. If you want to understand the systems that exist in nature, the way they behave, and how the time scales and pressures involved actually work then these are things that you can figure out.

I'm not interested in tutoring you, so save the PM.

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Bodhitharta

So would it be fair to say that you don't know anything about the sexual evolution of the reproductive organs of gnats?

Og

No. That would not be a correct assessment.

I know a lot about the construction of the creature. In fact, I am teaching a lab next week as part of a course at cornell where we're dissecting a relative of the common gnat (order Diptera), the house fly, and recording from its muscles. I have also studied evolutionary biology for some time and have dissected and developed instrumentation for a perception study in another diptera (Ormia Ochracea). The lab I work in does much work on fruit flies including analysis of the mating behavior and sexual selection and how genetic factors modify this.

I also have a large volume of study and work in the field of evolutionary biology which speaks to these things and have studied the behaviors of similar organism (such as bees) which use pheromonal queues to cause sexual distinction for their queen and reproduction (i.e. a precursor/parallel to male/female sexual behavior).

But my understanding of the topic doesn't seem to have anything to do with your willingness to learn some molecular biology.

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