Og

A believer in an anthropomorphic (i.e. he/father/lord) God and individuals separate from that God? No, I'm not a believer in that.

The notion that there is a creator separate from creation is demonstrably false. The notion of an entity Me and You and Him is all just relative. It does not have cosmic meaning.

Evolution happened. The notion that there's a being then that's separate from now is false on a cosmic scale. Particles have only changed their configurations and energy states. You and I are null words where cosmic meaning is concerned.

I am not a believer in evangelical christianities mainstream nut job interpretation of the bible as a news paper report.

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AB517

What do you believe in Og?

I am ok with dropping energy the appearance of differences shows up. Black holes are proof of that. I actually believe this myself. I speak of matter as frozen energy in my bible studies. But do the forces truly meet as one? Or maybe a soup of sorts?

I think it is in between Buddha and Islamic ideas of things.
I believe that there is just enough separation at all energies that we still remain individuals. However, this separation is as thin as a prince’s vial and the true nature of our togetherness is felt. This is the atonement. This is forgiveness. We truly see our brother as he is and we no longer judge him, or ourselves, as we do now. This is what Jesus spoke of. God shows no forgives because, as you say, “he Is” at all energy levels. He does not forgive because he never judged, to judge means somehow we are separate from him and this universe and he feels no such separations.

Maybe when Jesus stated that “your generation will not see this day” he was talking about Homo sapiens.

What do you believe in Og?

Tomasz

If Og managed to convert 20% of Christians into his version of Christianity, Richard Dawkins would become his greatest fan
Og throws a new light at the New Testament, no longer disconnected with reality as false interpretations of official churches deceiving people

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harleylove

IF you do a search on the internet you will find that many states are going to begin including creationism in their school curriculum.

I read this when my 9 year old son brought home a letter from a room mom in his class(at public school) with directions to her house for bible study to discuss "Scray bible stories" and how they help build faith. Huh!! Bible stories were bad enough but scary bible stories.

Anyway, everyone I told said that was illegal.. I researched it but couldn't find an answer. Does anyone know?

Thanks



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WilliamBlue

Sounds illegal to me, you should contact the ACLU, see what they say. Although it looks like the Dover case did not stop these idiots and they are trying their best to keep this going. The groups that are trying to fight this may have their hands full at the moment, sorry to say, we are on our way to becoming a nation of fundamentalist.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...n-science.html

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How can we be so arrogant and egotistical to believe that the whole Universe was created just for us?

shadowind

on creation in schools
evolution is science, and should be tought in science,
creationalism is a belief and a social thing, teach it either in religious studies or social studies as a social thing.

now on evolution
natural selection can be observed.
evolution is pretty much the application of natural selection.
it makes perfect sense as far as i know.

creationism, is weak.

AB517

What creation story are we going to teach?

I vote for one of the Native American ones.

That is a good idea about moving creation stuff to history or something. I also think they should teach more than just one. The Greeks got a nice one too, although they tend to be a bit wordy. The Norse are cool too. Lets us not forget those guys from down under, theirs is like 10,000 years old or so, isn't it?

greywolf90

do you think people who claim evolution is false would let these things be taught? i predict that it will be only the church-approved version.

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MAYBE

evolutionism is false and completely ridiculous

if I told you the computer you are connecting to this site on just spontaneously assembled itself from random spare parts that just appeared one day you would say that was insane

yet, atheists present this ridiculous notion as fact to logical people as the way our universe, planet and life were created... I would LMAO if it weren't so incredibly sad

amen friend

I pray for atheists

duck

It is to laugh at those who deny the body of evidence for evolution.

I really don't have time for Creationism since the bible is largely a metaphor for evolution.

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