Faith

You are trying to sound smart and funny. You are neither. And I can say what God will or will not bless, because he tells me what he will and will not bless in his word, The Bible. Something you mock and scoff at.

You are a blashphemer, and say you are one with God.


1And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.

2And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,

3Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:

4And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.

5And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:

6But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.

7And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.

8And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.

9And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

10And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.

11And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

13And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

14The sower soweth the word.

15And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

16And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;

17And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

18And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

20And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

Don't try to be funny or smart by trying to use Jesus' word against me. You use it to blaspheme, and blasphemey against the holy spirit is not forgiven, not now, or ever...

22Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.

23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.

28But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Og

I'm sorry you feel this way. I speak only from my heart. From the Holy Spirit within me. I speak from the right hand of the Father.

I tap with him upon your shoulder and beckon you to eternal life and you continue to cling to your safety blanket and clasp your eyes shut. And We smile and feel compassion for you even so.

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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe)
The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships
You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
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Og

And you keep clinging and yelling the same words. You throw about texts from a time and a world completely alien to the one you live in now. You try to bend meanings of ambiguous statements to fit the chaos that is your mind right now. You continue to yell them at the top of your lungs while you clench your eyes and writhe about because of the agony you perceive.

And We still feel compassion for you. There is no hidden agenda here. There is no "trying to sound smart" or mock anything. The words of Jesus are powerful. But that is not the end of God's revelation.

You have made it the end for you. And so your heart has solidified. But that too is an illusion. Something that only exists in the darkness behind your eye lids. And I feel compassion for you.

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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe)
The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships
You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
Become Who You Are

Faith

You are not with God. I am the one tapping on your shoulder trying to get your out of your scientific "security blanket" but as I said, you aren't willing to come out of it.

Og

I have no blanket. I hold to no delusions.

You continue to writhe. One can only hope that in your life a bit of light will shine through those clenched eye lids of yours to give you a taste, much like thomas sticking the fingers in the holes in Jesus' hands. Hopefully you'll have that kind of experience one day. It seems that that's what it will take.

But as I've said before. I can not open the door. I can only show the way as many before me, and yes, even before Jesus, have done across the earth.

Brother, I hold no blankets. Science is not a thing to hold. Its not a dogma or a belief structure. It's the revelation of God. The continuing revelation to His creation. And you clench your eyes and hold tight to a text from far in the past and from a world completely alien to the one you live in now.

The kingdom of heaven is here upon the earth, Faith. You only need to open your eyes to see it. I say it as Jesus said it. With compassion.

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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe)
The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships
You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
Become Who You Are

Og

You hold so tight to this text that has been perverted by the will of Man and, through him, the hand of Satan for over a millenia. Some truth may be found, but the dark ages were satan's playground and his time to craft his own versions of the scriptures.

The result is the Church today. The one to which you profess. Hypocrites that they are. I offer no path for you Faith. I'm sorry.

But as you may or may not find, there's a world of difference between knowing the path and walking it.

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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe)
The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships
You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
Become Who You Are

Faith

Once again you speak Jesus' word like a weapon to mock me and him. I know the kingdom of God is on the world, you keep trying to make it look like it's you teaching me and that I am you, so that you can try and pass through what I am teaching, and make it a mockery.

I hope that it is your eyes that will be opened. The bible is the word of God, and I speak with it. You try to use it to speak against itself, which you can not do. As I said, that is blaspheming, and God does not tolerate blasphemers.

I know the kingdom of God is on earth. And I know where God's temple truely lies. In our hearts. The church is not evil, and God even loves the church. The church is for fellowship for Christians, so that we can have a time of rest, at least an hour of learning about God. And once the hour is over, we are to go back into the same sinful world we got to have peace from, and deal with the troubles of sin.

God guides us through it, his love never ends. We may have sorrow, we may weep, but as the scripture says, God will wipe away every tear from our eyes.

Revelations 21:4

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

This is what man rejects, this is the happyness he has long fought to disprove, but with no success. When Jesus comes the second time, he will have the angels gather everyone from the four corners of the world.

Revelations 21:5-8

5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Og

I'm sorry you continue to feel this way. I'm not trying to teach you anything you don't already know. This isn't some class on neuroscience or electricity and magnetism. There's no teaching going on here.

I realize that you grasp on hards to the words of paul and john. I'm glad that you at least have a taste of the divine in the scriptures you hold so dear. I'm glad that you can at least find the face of God such that he can wipe your tears.

I know that the work of Satan has ingrained this box around your body with blinders such that you'll fall into this pit of darkness and never escape. And I'm glad you still feel that you have a little ray of light.

The wonderful way to beat satan is to trust in the talents and in the mind that god gave you. To open your eyes and see what is evil and what is good and to make those determinations for yourself in the presence of God. That's what agnosticism is. It's not some refutation of the Lord.

It's literally the story of the land owner and the talents. I take my talents and invest them and make them multiply by being creative and intelligent. I take the talents given to me by God and I open my eyes to His creation. You bury your talent under a rock in fear of the works of Satan.

You are the one who Satan has under his thumb. Jesus, Buddha, Myself, and many others are the ones who have truly defeated Satan. All you have to do is look at yourself. Open your eyes and the truth is there for all to see. The kingdom of heaven is spread upon the earth, only men do not see it.

The end of the world is not some physical coming of christ or the ending of human culture and population. The end of the world is a spiritual realization for each of us. The world has ended for me and where I am is in eternal life. And you can be there now. But as with the land owner and his servant who buried the talent out of fear, you will be cast out in your current state.

And it will be of your own will. Your outcast status is a production of your own rock solid ego. All you need to do is look within yourself. Question yourself and your motivations. Look at the world and question it in the light of these realizations. Question question question. And your face will turn unto God's and you will become one with him.

Find the faith to doubt. It will only strengthen who your are and strengthen your path to truth. You will then know that Satan does not direct your path.

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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici. (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe)
The self is not a fixed entity but a dynamic process of relationships
You & I, no distinction. - Tat Tvam Asi
Become Who You Are

LadyLuck

'Faith' is a strange word to me. It is defined as "confidence or trust in a thing or person", however, not clarifing whether what is held in confidence is truth or not. In this respect "faith" could be considered foolishness. As Og has stated numberous, numberous, numberous times, Faith, you are blind. My only question is why would you want to live with this blindness? I suppose it's a nice illusion. God will make everything right, he will distinguish right from wrong. Don't worry yourself, god will take care of it. Don't you fret, you're in god's hands. Believe whatever you want to believe. That's your choice. If you are happy with your eyes closed, then so be it. You have your peace, good for you.

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MartheGod

Soc, to be fair, they would have to teach the creationism story of EVERY RELIGION KNOWN TO MAN. That would take WAY too long. There aren't just two sides. There are many sides. And since creationsim has nothing to do with science, it shouldn't be taught in a SCIENCE class.