The end of evolution

Bodhitharta · 11-13-2006, 03:34 AM

To make a baby horse you need two other horses. You need one male and one female.

If according to evolution two non-horses created a horse I'll even accept that for the purposes of what I am thinking here.

You would have to have two different organisms(animals)of the same sex That evolved randomnly at the same time and in the same area of living. Whether they were two horses or two non-horses and then after they had a horse they would have to make another horse randomly.

Could someone explain this?

Illowra · 11-13-2006, 05:32 AM

cells don't have a 'sex'

THEWAULRUS · 11-13-2006, 07:26 AM

Who said the organizms must be different? They may be the same and just moved to a new environment. Why are some people black or white? Originally it was because of where they are born. "Black" people traveled to the north, where the snow falls and turned white.

Bodhitharta · 11-13-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodhitharta

To make a baby horse you need two other horses. You need one male and one female.

If according to evolution two non-horses created a horse I'll even accept that for the purposes of what I am thinking here.

You would have to have two different organisms(animals)of the same sex That evolved randomnly at the same time and in the same area of living. Whether they were two horses or two non-horses and then after they had a horse they would have to make another horse randomly.

Could someone explain this?

I guess what I'm saying is, you would have to have not one random event that made a specific animal but two.

THEWAULRUS · 11-13-2006, 03:50 PM

Evolution is not random. Its the change due to the environment over time.

THEWAULRUS · 11-13-2006, 03:57 PM

The only random event in evolution is the creation of life itself. We may have theories, or even know how it happened but we do not know why. That is why man looks for the answer since the of us. We use religion and science to answer that question and neither method has brought us closer to the answer to why it has happened.

Bodhitharta · 11-14-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by THEWAULRUS

The only random event in evolution is the creation of life itself. We may have theories, or even know how it happened but we do not know why. That is why man looks for the answer since the of us. We use religion and science to answer that question and neither method has brought us closer to the answer to why it has happened.

What I mean is that the mutations are explained as random, otherwise if mutations are purposely selected where would this "Purpose" come from. Evolutionist use terms like "selection" without using the word intelligent but I ask you, how can a selection that is purposely beneficial be not considered a selection of intelligence?

NeanderThal · 11-14-2006, 01:48 PM

1 - Two "non Horses" creating a horse is not evolution....
Slow, gradual changes over time ...

2 - "Selection" - Think of a Polar bear , a half million yars ago or so there was probably a single bear like species that ended up evolving into both Polar bears & Grizzly Bears ... The Bears that were better adapted to snow & cold conditions (those with lighter/whiter coats to avoid being seen by prey/predetors, better swimming skills ect), were more likley to survive & therfore pass on their genes, eventually losing many of the genes/traits not needed, while a Grizzly in the forests needed darker coats to avoid being spotted, better tree climbing skills ect ... Add to this natural envirnmental selection the random mutations that are born/occur over time .. & we have our 2 bears today, while the orginal ancestor, less specialized for either envirnment, is now extict fossils...
The Ancestor of the horse are the evolutionary grandparents of today's Zebras, Donkies & horses ... These current animals evolved their traits due to adapting to their enviornment, & isolation from the other populations, along with a million years of births & mutations that occur. They can still interbreed, but are now so different that the offspring is sterile (mule)

Bodhitharta · 11-14-2006, 11:04 PM

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They can still interbreed, but are now so different that the offspring is sterile (mule)

Now, knowing that the offspring is sterile how do you manage to buy into less developed stages creating non-sterile offspring.

THEWAULRUS · 11-25-2006, 06:06 PM

Ok..this topic is officially just got messed up by porn commercials!