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View Poll Results: Should Evolution and Creation be taught together?
Evolutionist, Creationism should not be taught 19 86.36%
Evolutionist, both should be taught 3 13.64%
Creationist, Evolution should not be taught 0 0%
Creationist, both should be taught 0 0%
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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if you believe this book then you must be more stupid then you look its just a book that causes contraversy, and you do realise evolution has been proved, and even if not 100%(in science they say you can never be certain)it is a damned sight closer to the truth then any religion has ever got. look at the times when your religion were created, in a time with no order, crime, corruption, and the only way to fix this is to say if you are naughty you will go to hell or wherever you go to in your religion.
This guy is clearly looking to make a quick buck and is making off you, so if you don't believe in evolution keep it to yourself and dont send me a link to some ridculous book which is trying to put down scientists, the same scientists that will one day save your life in hospital!! because of facts they have learnt in the past. So what do you say you leave it to the Professionals and go praise your fictional God. Faith itself means to believe in something there is no proof for, so who is wrong here scientists or people that write a book hundreds of years ago. So i will, as most religious people do dismiss your views out of hand because they hold no water.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You may find here a lot of facts:

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if you believe this book then you must be more stupid then you look its just a book that causes contraversy, and you do realise evolution has been proved, and even if not 100%(in science they say you can never be certain)it is a damned sight closer to the truth then any religion has ever got. look at the times when your religion were created, in a time with no order, crime, corruption, and the only way to fix this is to say if you are naughty you will go to hell or wherever you go to in your religion.
This guy is clearly looking to make a quick buck and is making off you, so if you don't believe in evolution keep it to yourself and dont send me a link to some ridculous book which is trying to put down scientists, the same scientists that will one day save your life in hospital!! because of facts they have learnt in the past. So what do you say you leave it to the Professionals and go praise your fictional God. Faith itself means to believe in something there is no proof for, so who is wrong here scientists or people that write a book hundreds of years ago. So i will, as most religious people do dismiss your views out of hand because they hold no water.
I am sure that you did not read, but I want to ask you 1 question, why you don't believe in God?
tell me so I can understand you, please
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You may find here a lot of facts:

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if you believe this book then you must be more stupid then you look its just a book that causes contraversy, and you do realise evolution has been proved, and even if not 100%(in science they say you can never be certain)it is a damned sight closer to the truth then any religion has ever got. look at the times when your religion were created, in a time with no order, crime, corruption, and the only way to fix this is to say if you are naughty you will go to hell or wherever you go to in your religion.
This guy is clearly looking to make a quick buck and is making off you, so if you don't believe in evolution keep it to yourself and dont send me a link to some ridculous book which is trying to put down scientists, the same scientists that will one day save your life in hospital!! because of facts they have learnt in the past. So what do you say you leave it to the Professionals and go praise your fictional God. Faith itself means to believe in something there is no proof for, so who is wrong here scientists or people that write a book hundreds of years ago. So i will, as most religious people do dismiss your views out of hand because they hold no water.
I am sure that you did not read, but I want to ask you 1 question, why you don't believe in God?
tell me so I can understand you, please
belief in god is based on faith my friend not something you could possibly prove.why alot of people dont believe is because they can not see him.i dont believe because i see no reason why he created us.did he create us for our benefit or his?i think if you look at evolution its the only thing that may prove a creator but you deny it,not because there are facts that you refuse to accept but because your book appears to contradict evolution.whatever proof was given to you ,you would discount it out of hand because it contradicts your belief system.
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You may find here a lot of facts:

http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php
if you believe this book then you must be more stupid then you look its just a book that causes contraversy, and you do realise evolution has been proved, and even if not 100%(in science they say you can never be certain)it is a damned sight closer to the truth then any religion has ever got. look at the times when your religion were created, in a time with no order, crime, corruption, and the only way to fix this is to say if you are naughty you will go to hell or wherever you go to in your religion.
This guy is clearly looking to make a quick buck and is making off you, so if you don't believe in evolution keep it to yourself and dont send me a link to some ridculous book which is trying to put down scientists, the same scientists that will one day save your life in hospital!! because of facts they have learnt in the past. So what do you say you leave it to the Professionals and go praise your fictional God. Faith itself means to believe in something there is no proof for, so who is wrong here scientists or people that write a book hundreds of years ago. So i will, as most religious people do dismiss your views out of hand because they hold no water.
I am sure that you did not read, but I want to ask you 1 question, why you don't believe in God?
tell me so I can understand you, please
No the question is mate why do YOU BELIEVE in God, it is not up to us to prove there is no God it is up to you religious people to prove there is, scientists have shown proof of evolution,so is your religions proof? eh? you ask y i dont believe in god, and the answer is simple, because it is not real.
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belief in god is based on faith my friend not something you could possibly prove.
Ok, I get confused now, some of you say that even evolution cannot be proven and some say it has been proven

can you debate with each other and give us the correct saying? please...

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why alot of people dont believe is because they can not see him.


1. Do you believe that there are stars at noon, but we cannot see them? or because you cannot see the stars, you will deny the fact that they are there.

2. Do you believe in the air?

3. shall the blind deny our existance? and believe that we are jinns rather than human?
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belief in god is based on faith my friend not something you could possibly prove.
Ok, I get confused now, some of you say that even evolution cannot be proven and some say it has been proven

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why alot of people dont believe is because they can not see him.


1. Do you believe that there are stars at noon, but we cannot see them? or because you cannot see the stars, you will deny the fact that they are there.

2. Do you believe in the air?

3. shall the blind deny our existance? and believe that we are jinns rather than human?
evolution is proved whether it was by creation i dont know.creation and evolution could be same.,,,,,what do you see when you see children dying of hunger through natures calamities?why do you think god created us?please dont give me more scriptures just your thoughts.
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belief in god is based on faith my friend not something you could possibly prove.
Ok, I get confused now, some of you say that even evolution cannot be proven and some say it has been proven

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why alot of people dont believe is because they can not see him.


1. Do you believe that there are stars at noon, but we cannot see them? or because you cannot see the stars, you will deny the fact that they are there.

2. Do you believe in the air?

3. shall the blind deny our existance? and believe that we are jinns rather than human?
evolution is proved whether it was by creation i dont know.creation and evolution could be same.,,,,,what do you see when you see children dying of hunger through natures calamities?why do you think god created us?please dont give me more scriptures just your thoughts.
you can see the stars you can feel the air the blind can hear us, these are all forms of proof what do you have?
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we will see when we are all six feet under actionally we wont cause we will all be dead.just admit it you are scared of dieing and there being nothing after that.
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we will see when we are all six feet under actionally we wont cause we will all be dead.just admit it you are scared of dieing and there being nothing after that.
every ones scared of dying but im not scared of whats after death why should i?
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