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Science & Philosophy Is science our new world religion? What is science uncovering about our world and how is this impacting society? Arguments about the fundamental nature of reality.



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Old 01-18-2008, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Creationist should evolve

I have been thinking about this for a while now.
I believe in evolution, I read magazines and evolution related stuff all the time.
It really annoys me when a believer or creationist (if thats even a word) believe in the bible's version of the Creation in a hardcore manner. Why?
Because, the world was not created in 7 days!!!!! I think believers should take this as a metaphore, maybe each day means (X) Million Years, but it annoys me when they are so SURE world was created in just 7 days.

What about proven things, differences in Years from first animals and Humans. Dinosaurs alone lived millions of years ago.

The POINT IS:

I really dislike when I discuss this matter with a believer as they rather believe in a big ball of air (called faith) which they cant touch or see or prove and not believe in proven evolution of animal species, in DNA and Carbon tests. They refuse to listen to it and believe in it. They even say it is a lie or whatever. I can hold a bunch of bones, which I can see, touch and study and still they will always believe in their big ball of air.

Wouldn it be wiser to adapt their Creation story to modern findings? Would it be easier to believe if they said that it was god's plan for us to evolve, to grow step by step instead of having everything ready made? Wouldn it be less "fairy-tale like" to say that he created life in its simplest form and molded it and helped it develop until it reached "perfection".

I think this would help a lot in the way that it would sound less childish and more up to date with whats really going on.

Just my toughts.

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Not that if they changed the bible's version for this one I would believe, but at least it would sound ess impossible.

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I have been thinking about this for a while now.
I believe in evolution, I read magazines and evolution related stuff all the time.
It really annoys me when a believer or creationist (if thats even a word) believe in the bible's version of the Creation in a hardcore manner. Why?
Because, the world was not created in 7 days!!!!! I think believers should take this as a metaphore, maybe each day means (X) Million Years, but it annoys me when they are so SURE world was created in just 7 days.

What about proven things, differences in Years from first animals and Humans. Dinosaurs alone lived millions of years ago.

The POINT IS:

I really dislike when I discuss this matter with a believer as they rather believe in a big ball of air (called faith) which they cant touch or see or prove and not believe in proven evolution of animal species, in DNA and Carbon tests. They refuse to listen to it and believe in it. They even say it is a lie or whatever. I can hold a bunch of bones, which I can see, touch and study and still they will always believe in their big ball of air.

Wouldn it be wiser to adapt their Creation story to modern findings? Would it be easier to believe if they said that it was god's plan for us to evolve, to grow step by step instead of having everything ready made? Wouldn it be less "fairy-tale like" to say that he created life in its simplest form and molded it and helped it develop until it reached "perfection".

I think this would help a lot in the way that it would sound less childish and more up to date with whats really going on.

Just my toughts.

PS
Not that if they changed the bible's version for this one I would believe, but at least it would sound ess impossible.

JC

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The baby thing … wow

When our first was born I thought it.
The second one was just a calculation check.
The third confirmed it.

The birthing process is an engineering disaster!

I called the pope and told him that the creation story really must be changed. God may have rested on the seventh day but on Monday Peter reminded him that we need to bread. After the asexual route was ruled out and some tinkle tube updates (birth cannel patch 1.2) were added it was done.

Marsupials appeared for the first time shortly after the mods … some where around 11:26 am I think.
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hehehhe the mods. If I was a little older, I would have been a punk of course . As to add to the topic though, I'm going to have to say that swallowing the idea of a 7 day creating goes against the laws of science. Rules that actually exist, on our planet, and that are not just in a book.
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And my soul said, "Let us pass on. He is the realist, who turns his back on the whole he cannot grasp, and busies himself with a fragment."
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