Og

I was in a talk today with a scientist who was giving a more layperson directed discussion of the genetic/neuronal basis of obesity, sexual preference, and monogamy.

While talking about sexual preference, he described in mice (and humans) about how every creature is prototypically female and that it requires the intervention of the Y chromosome to produce testes which then produce testosterone which drives all male specific phenotypes. Without that intervention, all of us would be female (the prototypic human out of which all are generated).

He then mentioned that it was the exact opposite of genesis. I laughed out loud. Thought it was a neat paradigm shift and food for thought in face of the male structured christian/hebrew religion.

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shadowind

i wonder what some one with only one x chromosome would be like, considering woman have 2 x chromosomes and male one x and one y. do you guys know if theres a difference between having only one x chromosome and 2 x? or is there no difference? i have some basic knowledge in genetics but not alot.

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greywolf90

i just learned about this in biology.
nondisjunction occurs when the chromosomes are not separated properly during meiosis, and a person can have an extra chromosome or be missing a chromosome.

turner syndrome is when a person is born with only an X chromosome. they are phenotypically female, but their sex organs do not mature and they're sterile. most have normal intelligence, and they can develop secondary sex charictaristics with estrogen replacement theropy.

Klinefelter sydrome is when the male has XXY. they have sex organs, but the testes are abnormally small, and they are also sterile. they usually develope slight breasts and other feminine characteristics.

XXX females show no difference from XX females. XYY males also show no difference from XY males (except sometimes they are taller than average). i think it is impossible to have a Y only male (at least i havn't read anything on it).

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greywolf90

i agree that genisis does have it backward. perhaps it should have been "... and man came from woman..." and by the way, since you interperate genisis metaphoricaly, i was wandering if you knew the meaning behind Eve being created from Adam's rib. i understand the "flesh of my flesh, bone of my bone, etc." but i do not understand why it had to be a rib. do you think it was just a random bone, or was there significance in that specific bone?

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Telimaktar

I was taught back in the day by my old religion that men have one less rib because it was taken for Eve. But this is not true, both male and female have 12 pairs, so what gives? Assuming as a lot do that the bible is literal when it suits them.

You'd think that the Catholics after butchering so many people could have physically counted the ribs in a mans chest.

shadowind

thats cool

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onlooking eternal

[quote=greywolf90;23820]Unless I misunderstood the lesson in my college biology class---which is possible, given my tendency to zone out and daydream---I believe XXX females (also known as "super females") are sterile.

It has been proven that men do not have fewer ribs than women do. However, some people do have varying numbers of ribs. Some people have more ribs than other people do, but being a man or a woman has nothing to do with it.

I read that somewhere.

pseudonous

There are numerous reason to think that this has to do with earlier Sumerian mythology. Specifically, a myth that takes place in a paradise garden where a goddess named Nin-ti heals the organs of a sick god including a rib. It turns out that "ti" has two meanings one of which is "to make live". There is also a Biblical notion that Eve means approximately "she who makes live".

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romansh

nice to see you back pseudo
missed your galloping giraffe

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pseudonous

thanks, it's good to be back

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