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Old 12-24-2007, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Evolutionist, This is scientific:

conservation law: The conservation law says that everything that comes out of a spinning atom (which you guys say created the universe) must spin the same direction as the atom... and if that is true then how come there are three planets spinning a different direction the the universe? and (9 out of the 51) known moons spin opposite of there planets gravitational pull???

The second law of thermodynamics: This says that if you leave something alone for a long period of time it will start to decay... Then How could we have "Evolved" from an atom if everything DECAYS over a long period of time?

I could go on all day...

It's funny how Evolution contradicts itself... This is how the universe was made...

In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth. (Genesis 1:1)
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Amen brother DC

you will now be labeled a troll for not falling in line with popular belief here


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Old 12-24-2007, 03:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thats ok, Matthew 10:22, "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved."
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John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

John 14:6, "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, brother for they have hated him before they hated us

I have felt the hate which confirms prophecy to be true

the sad thing is: by their very actions they confirm the words they claim are not inspired of God... isn't that marvelous?


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Old 12-24-2007, 09:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Things decay because that is what happens.

Do we not die?

Do we not decay?

I can't talk about moons and planets because I don't know about them entirely.

But I do know we all die.

And as far as I know, no one hates you. You're just annoying. I admire your faith, but the fact that you can back it is annoying. There is another member by the name of Shaun, and he is of your faith. But he can back his words. He doesn't answer questions with other questions.

It's very refreshing. I rather enjoy Christians who can actually back their faith. Quoting the bible does nothing. What Shaun says actually makes sense. That's what people look for. Sense. Sense.

There is no hatred here. Only the fact that I don't understand. And menial words like "The lord god takes all to his bosom" does not create understanding.

We could have a very nice discussion. However, it's hard to debate when all you answer questions with is meaningless lines.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I admire your faith, but the fact that you can't back it with anything but bible quotes is kind of annoying.

I'm pretty sure no one hates you. I certainly don't hate religion. It is when it gets shoved down my throat, or when people don't tolerate my opinions like I tolerate others... well, it's annoying.

You can't back anything you speak of. You can find plenty of bible quotes to talk about, but when asked a question about your ideas, your answer is something like, "The Lord will provide".

And maybe he will provide for you, but you aren't exactly defending him. You're just speaking for him, which I think the lord would not like. That's almost equivalent to having a war in his name. How do you know he likes all of what you say about him?
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If Shaun makes sense why do you not believe?

you don't like things that make sense or are there other reasons compelling you not to accept the existence of God

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from my understanding of evolution, it has nothing to do with the creation of the universe. it explains how a spiecies changes and grows over time.
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conservation law: The conservation law says that everything that comes out of a spinning atom (which you guys say created the universe) must spin the same direction as the atom...
Consider that perhaps at the Big Bang the various atoms began to spin in myriad different directions, not all to the left or all to the right.

Also please consider that atomic spin != planetary spin. The gravitational forces responsible for orbital patterns may turn out to have nothing whatsoever to do with the forces that hold atoms together.

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The second law of thermodynamics: This says that if you leave something alone for a long period of time it will start to decay...
This law only applies to a closed system with no additional energy inputs. We receive an enormous amount of energy input from the Sun, every single day.

Oh, and abiogenesis and evolution are two completely different things.
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Evolutionist, This is scientific:

conservation law: The conservation law says that everything that comes out of a spinning atom (which you guys say created the universe) must spin the same direction as the atom... and if that is true then how come there are three planets spinning a different direction the the universe? and (9 out of the 51) known moons spin opposite of there planets gravitational pull???

The second law of thermodynamics: This says that if you leave something alone for a long period of time it will start to decay... Then How could we have "Evolved" from an atom if everything DECAYS over a long period of time?

I could go on all day...

It's funny how Evolution contradicts itself... This is how the universe was made...

In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth. (Genesis 1:1)
Sorry friend.

You do us no good in convincing our non-believing friends of a god when you bring wrong facts to the table. I am a believing science guy, please, stick with what you know. I do not know how to cook, if I tried to prove God existed by baking I would look foolish. I was going to PM this but more need to see this.
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