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12-21-2007, 12:40 PM
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| what atheists expect an intelligent person to believe The computer you’re typing at was designed and built by an intelligent life form
The car you drive was designed and built by an intelligent life form
The house or apartment building you live in was designed and built by an intelligent life form
The television you watch was designed and built by an intelligent life form
However, the universe and planet you live in and the body you have which are millions of times more complex than anything I’ve listed above were created by random assembly and a process known as evolution
A laughable assumption really and is the best trick the devil has ever pulled
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12-21-2007, 12:50 PM
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| Why couldn't evolution be part of a god's plan? That's what Darwin thought, I believe.
Given the fossil evidence, I find it kind of hard to believe we were just "poofed" here by something.
Even if there is a god and we were created by it, we didn't just show up in a garden some where and start eating apples and wearing olive leaves over our genitalia.
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12-21-2007, 01:16 PM
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| OK so god exists ..... why a theistic god and not a deistic god?
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12-21-2007, 06:36 PM
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| lets assume the universe goes on forever, and that the patterns of the planets surrounding us goes on in to the expanse forever. think about it, endless possiblilitys, somewhere the conditions will be right, and sometype of carbon based molecule and other neccassary chemicals would interact in such a way that produces a simple replicating chemical soup or something, this replicates itself inperfectly, creating different versions of itself, some versions survive or replicate faster, then evolution takes hold, and evolution is not random, its natural selection, what dies doesn't produce offspring, what lives produces offspring, that offspring lives, another mutation happens, climate then changes, making that mutation helpfull, and then we have a new species, im pretty sure we can observe natural selection, by sticking a bunch of bacterium into a culture, using a chemical to kill it,(might have to do it a few times, im not a micro-biologist) wait alittle while till a mutated baterium thats resistant to the chemical reproduces, then wal la, we have a example of natural/artifical selection, now apply that to history, and it makes perfect sense. also there artifical selection which is when we breed animals selectively according to the constraints we create, nature has constrants also, heat, predators, type of enviroment, food, and such that some mutated version of animal will be better able to survive in, surviving longer and producing more offspring. its not random. im sure theres rules and laws that has to do with the formation of planets to, it just so happened that when earth formed it was right for it all to start, its seems perfectly possible.
also intellegent design has the problem of what created god, surely something as complicated as god has to have a creator?
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12-22-2007, 12:51 AM
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| Lets assume something logical for a moment
God created the universe and everything in it
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12-22-2007, 01:17 AM
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| I suppose it's possible that *a* god, or perhaps more than one god, created the universe.
However, I consider it infinitely unlikely that the creator was the god described in the Bible. |
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12-22-2007, 01:32 AM
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| The bible is the source of all truth
including who the real God is
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12-22-2007, 01:59 AM
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| The Bible is a mixture of plagiarized Akkadian and Canaanite mythology, mistranslations from Hebrew/Aramaic to Greek, mythologized history, preposterous eschatological ramblings, and some very, very, very bad tribal laws. I doubt very much that a god had anything to do with it.
And we only have to find one example of a truth that is not found in the Bible to disprove the statement "the source of all truth".
Here's one: "Bats are rodents." |
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12-22-2007, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MAYBE The computer you’re typing at was designed and built by an intelligent life form
The car you drive was designed and built by an intelligent life form
The house or apartment building you live in was designed and built by an intelligent life form
The television you watch was designed and built by an intelligent life form
However, the universe and planet you live in and the body you have which are millions of times more complex than anything I’ve listed above were created by random assembly and a process known as evolution
A laughable assumption really and is the best trick the devil has ever pulled
Amen friend | The earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old, life began on this planet about 3 to 3.5 billion years ago, so it took a billion years for that random assembly to occur, seems pretty plausible to me. After all if you have an experiment as big as the planet running for a billion years, your bound to get some interesting results eventually.
I think that your assumptions that a mythical being came along and produced a universe, the size of which is mind boggling, populated it with trillions of stars all for an insignificant planet with some semi-smart apes is laughable at the least. All that is supposed to be proved by a book that was written by ignorant people at different times/places and then which has been poorly assembled and translated. None of the translations took into account the culture in which the original text was written.
I suppose that you probably still believe in Santa Claus and unicorns too, sigh.
Oh, by the way the sun does not revolve around the earth.
You never did answer my question, why did god creat the devil?
Evolution has a lot more evidence than the junk you are preaching, the bible is not to be taken literally, it is full of parables, many of which were plagiarized from earlier stories. Not a bad book, if you like fiction, although I found it rather boring.
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How can we be so arrogant and egotistical to believe that the whole Universe was created just for us?
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12-22-2007, 11:37 AM
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| I don't believe in Santa Clause because Jesus was not born on Dec 25th
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