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Old 09-09-2006, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why could it possible be OK for Christians to sin and think "that's alright. Funny, ha ha. " Not that any really harm is intended, but it does seem to me that the religion tends to allow Christians to act irresponsibly, because there is only one real requirement. All the easier for those who really just don't care to think about it much...
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To clarify sin, I mean little sins, like breaking copyright laws, lying to people, coveting your neighbors stuff, etc.
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A sin is a sin is a sin (boy that was fun to type). The part that gets me is the "so called" Christians that act horrible during the Monday - Saturday time span only to become Holy Roller's Sunday morning. Hypocrites drive me nuts and the part-time Christian's have got to be the worst!
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Why could it possible be OK for Christians to sin and think "that's alright. Funny, ha ha. " Not that any really harm is intended, but it does seem to me that the religion tends to allow Christians to act irresponsibly, because there is only one real requirement. All the easier for those who really just don't care to think about it much...
Good old human nature, basically.

We seem to be able to compartmentalize our lives, so that one part has nothing to do with the other part. Thus somebody who is a self-avowed Christian (or Muslim, or Jew, or Jainst, etc) may observe their faith to the letter on holy days, but not allow the ethics taught by their faith to stop them from carting home pens from work, or fudging a little on the income tax.

The company I work for is now recovering from a very bad merger it entered into two years ago. The entity we merged with was headed up by a female whose religious heritage was Orthodox Judaism, but she has purportedly been a born again Christian for a number of years. To put it mildly, some of the things she did to not only our company, but to hers, the vendors for both companies and to people who trusted and believed in her, have no parallel in the teachings of any religion I know of. Still, I bet she is at her non-denominational church every Sunday, singing and praising.

I know some mainline Christians I would trust with my very life; I know others that I would not trust any further than I could throw them.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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To add to that, christians love loopholes and interpreting things to fit their needs. Hence their inability to believe some things in the bible just make no sense.

So out of all the loopholes what's their all time fav?

God's mercy and willingness to forgive your sins.

That's right folks for the low low price of promising your heart and undying love to God and saying that you accept Jesus as your lord and savior you too can be saved even though at some point or another you've broken every last one of the ten commandments

You can kill, mame, rob banks, rape kids, and go to prison but if while you're in prison you open your heart to Jesus and become born again you can wipe all your sins away.

Yay God!

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Why could it possible be OK for Christians to sin and think "that's alright. Funny, ha ha. " Not that any really harm is intended, but it does seem to me that the religion tends to allow Christians to act irresponsibly, because there is only one real requirement. All the easier for those who really just don't care to think about it much...
anyone who does that is not a true christian, for they do not truly beleive and repent.

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That's right folks for the low low price of promising your heart and undying love to God and saying that you accept Jesus as your lord and savior you too can be saved even though at some point or another you've broken every last one of the ten commandments

You can kill, mame, rob banks, rape kids, and go to prison but if while you're in prison you open your heart to Jesus and become born again you can wipe all your sins away.

Yay God!
actually, you will only be saved if you truly believe and truly repent. If you think "oh, i can get a free ride now!" or "i can do wahtever i want, cuz il just become christian afterward!" then you are outta luck. You must truly believe, not just use it as a scapegoat.
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99% of Christians are total hypocrites. I am a Christian but I also acknowledge that almost all "Christians" live for themselves, ignore God and the rules they claim to live by. However, they find nothing wrong with putting people down for not sharing their faith. Its sad but true.
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actually, you will only be saved if you truly believe and truly repent. If you think "oh, i can get a free ride now!" or "i can do wahtever i want, cuz il just become christian afterward!" then you are outta luck. You must truly believe, not just use it as a scapegoat.
So a person can come into your house, rape your wife and sexually abuse your kids then kill them all execution style and live his life doing similar acts afterwards. But when he turns 60 and feels bad about and worships God and "truly believes" then he deserves to go to the same heaven all the good people do. Is that what you're saying?
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Yeah basically if you believe Christians God doesn't care what you do during your life so long as at some point you believe in him and kiss his ass.

Does that sound more like a God or a human?

Doesn't that seem more like something religious leaders would use to ensure that anyone who wanted to obey them could by using this loophole? You can't control people if some people think they aren't worthy of being controlled right

What a load of bull, and christians buy it hook line and sinker.
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So a person can come into your house, rape your wife and sexually abuse your kids then kill them all execution style and live his life doing similar acts afterwards. But when he turns 60 and feels bad about and worships God and "truly believes" then he deserves to go to the same heaven all the good people do. Is that what you're saying?
if he truly repents with his entire soul, yes.

if he truly becomes a good person and is not worshiping just to clear his name and get away with what he has done, yes.

such is the nature of forgiveness.
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